From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63300: 29.0.90; Tramp keeps customizing variables on every connection Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 14:21:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87o7lvquy2.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87h6rnsiup.fsf@gmx.de> <871qirsbcd.fsf@gmx.de> <666e41e6-b1fc-4dd3-a190-187a73c868f8@Spark> <87sfb7qvoh.fsf@gmx.de> <814039a1-20ea-4068-b950-1cd9ed594e21@Spark> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32089"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 63300@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jimmy Wong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 04 14:22:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q5mkQ-0008DV-Ti for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 04 Jun 2023 14:21:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <814039a1-20ea-4068-b950-1cd9ed594e21@Spark> (Jimmy Wong's message of "Sun, 4 Jun 2023 13:16:40 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:MR6oykgQbWH8Eo58HmzynVLSIQivpcnnlFX8J/jjD03HiwfFXqW lpdytzXIjSFh1WGOIwkhiMS83gNYnqQ2rJgJfK1KgIsTXEWB8EQitOK1acZHdWsjI5Rx6J/ NM0IALb1Y6MNG8boqRK/B3TgSJsmr0LZGElwXjnAQgGdzwPGxIbIgcfiPMc4LBtVasnmFZD ZGHoTIGAEHBW7WxI8rGcw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:A7HzIb2BVVI=;U8pXaxWDzt357QnlzJ9kLH0Sy/o Pq21BUNnotPbPTscs2glzU8+0Duay33kcrpqvUidc0jezhjSFa+yD0g1FewtZ4jCRGw9qnQJs efxRvSWszKH3ctvqGOyNkfVVjEbDfBo6jOgRgmKJ38c+gWeU5nXMVheKQ5ySzBMx1TaxCVf/O ZEVAokv0ezvT3KWJgJNzCiUeQVoTDz2OjFL4SXE5VRLKj36iVfsCjYagRsYor0fdojTWwskKh cFPzDGfBlYlmV8saoUkzxCM3Mx3RqIAveYt+QTzMJUCYD3koseJdpEallC5z0qKBD5CPrmdXi nGgktD/G5vR+zb9Ysmz4NtClWuQXyDiRkSWpBuJN2zLQtxwym9i5uzWyBqTcUacq6PJQQ6GSF i4OsbDTgaWW9gBGQJ3mj4YVxZIVOD/Qn+JfVuw73vou7lI6QWsjE1ZwB5JE8zCuCdWO0YxNoX E1KgvKKF3V/I4Q7QKopGFx/t3Md2Gwq5BPRgw9iXjEqqA1+T8VNs4jNeBXOK3JPwrlN/ZtXVV XfLv1I7V9fdBJTUXpygrMkCgSjqMbL2o2BnP9vFNJUrDzkg4tAQvyrFp/oAFv6VkjmDbaU6IW DTPQmvWOIy7av3D46V8AS4PT8ICUt/RxhGb3MI2EW04y7MXWxThdnIH8c7hunG8Wf1mJR/YTS S+bNXDroe3F4JHYBtCcLZwuH+RPa0qt85Keu4AgJGWAuW4Bv9R5UNnDRemLAYtyFe/98K+aIo D47y+RlW/O3ufhByK8lYe4o7pRCgWMmkTSy701NRuz7yzsS73idSxjWsRIkLdZGj0QI3zSVL X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262943 Archived-At: Jimmy Wong writes: Hi, > Well, yes, I consider this a poorly considered =E2=80=9Cfeature=E2=80=9D,= or arguably > a bug, for exactly the reason you said, they are local to connections > and machines, and thus highly variable. Not really. They exist for the reason that a user can override the default values offered by Tramp. This I would call a user option. Tramp has a lot of further host specific data, which are all kept in variables. > We can probably argue whether this is a bug in tramp or a bug in > customize-save-variable tho (why on earth does the act of saving a > single variable value saves all customized values if a custom file > exists?) I agree with the latter. Best regards, Michael.