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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Distinguishing `consp` and `functionp`
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 21:14:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7d6kjfe.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmsstm3xc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:15:48 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> I've been annoyed at the use of lists to represent function values for
> a while now.  For a reason I cannot fathom, I even managed to reproduce
> that very same mistake in Emacs-24 with the `(closure ...)` value for
> statically scoped interpreted function values.
>
> That was a major blunder.
>
> In any case, I'm playing around with a "fix", making lambda evaluate
> (when interpreted) not to (lambda ...) or (closure ...) but to
> a self-evaluating value that can be more reliably distinguished.
> In the patch below, I just reused the #[...] byte-code objects for that,
> putting the function's body where the bytecode string goes and the
> function's captured environment where the "constant vector" goes.
>
> It's got several rough edges (most importantly that
> `byte-code-function-p` returns non-nil for interpreted function values),
> but it seems to work OK so far.
>
> You can't use the patch as-is because it's written against my local
> branch, with various local hacks, some of which (partly) remove support
> for lexical-binding==nil.
> But hopefully, it's readable enough for you to form an opinion.

I'm fine with it, on the condition that it continues to be possible to
print and read lambdas created by quoted function forms, as:

  #'(lambda () foo)

Needless to say, funcall should continue to accept old list lambdas,
whether functionp regards them as such or not.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-27 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25 23:15 Distinguishing `consp` and `functionp` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-26  0:00 ` Adam Porter
2024-01-26  0:24   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-26  7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 19:22   ` João Távora
2024-01-26 21:13     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-26 21:50       ` João Távora
2024-01-26 23:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27  0:22           ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-01-27 11:47             ` João Távora
2024-01-27 13:20             ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 11:53           ` João Távora
2024-01-28  3:03           ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-28 21:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 12:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:41           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 15:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 15:54             ` João Távora
2024-01-29 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 16:25                 ` João Távora
2024-01-29 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 16:17               ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-29 16:34                 ` João Távora
2024-02-01  3:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 16:28               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-29 16:34                 ` João Távora
2024-01-29 20:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30  8:58                     ` João Távora
2024-01-30 12:54                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30 22:24                         ` João Távora
2024-01-30 23:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-30 23:43                             ` João Távora
2024-01-31  0:22                               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-31  0:40                                 ` João Távora
2024-01-31  3:37                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-31 10:51                                     ` João Távora
2024-01-31 18:34                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-01  3:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-29 17:09             ` Yuri Khan
2024-02-01  3:49             ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-30  3:58     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-27 11:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-27 14:25   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27 23:01     ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28  0:00       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28  6:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 17:26         ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28 17:48           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 19:42             ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-28 20:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-28 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28 18:38           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-27 13:14 ` Po Lu [this message]
2024-01-27 14:41   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-28  1:56     ` Po Lu
2024-01-28 20:55     ` Stefan Kangas

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