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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320592 Archived-At: Hi Eli, emacs developers, * Eli Zaretskii [2024-06-23; 17:22 +03]: > Now let's > hear from others, and please leave it to the Emacs maintainers to > decide what to do with this after we've heard enough opinions. On todays big displays I often have more than two windows in my only emacs frame. Other solutions like window-numbers did not stick with me. I use the windmove-{up,down,left,right} commands all the time. Since I use more than two windows and at the same time I'm not able to control the placements of windows, I value winner-mode very much. But because of the more involved key binding I use it not as often as would actually be helpful. I bound the windmove movements to H-. Since I bound H to the Caps Lock key this is convenient for me. I bound winner-{undo,redo} to C-H-{left,right} for symmetry but forget that key binding again and again. Regards, Gregor