From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 00:46:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87o7611fi6.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87sevj9b50.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <871q33rj7v.fsf@dataswamp.org> <86ed73qhly.fsf@gnu.org> <87frrjoryg.fsf_-_@dataswamp.org> <86wmkuq60j.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5hqq4v3.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87mslqes7m.fsf@web.de> <874j7ypvr4.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87mslqceby.fsf@web.de> <86bk25q33b.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30376"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:5yKLqi3ocotsUT/Pmj3ZXanJPrE= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 10 07:20:02 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sceWH-0007iM-Ee for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2024 07:20:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sceVu-0007QD-3s; Sat, 10 Aug 2024 01:19:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1scYNX-0004Pc-GC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2024 18:46:35 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1scYNV-0000G5-U6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2024 18:46:35 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1scYNT-00072P-Uy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2024 00:46:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 01:19:36 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322599 Archived-At: >>> Excellent, now have a look at ispell.el - 4 323 lines - or >>> flyspell.el that is 2 393 lines - you can reduce it a lot, >>> I take it. >> >> That's not my point. >> >> My point is that the buffer as abstraction is already >> pretty good. > > Indeed. As is looking-at and beginning-of-line, btw. The buffer is good for editing text and can be used for various purposes, but for computing as in data-processing in general, you don't want to retrieve and insert data with editing commands in a buffer. But want to have it in specific data structures suited for whatever purpose one is dealing with. Faster, safer and much easier to program. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal