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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 69097@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net,
	stefankangas@gmail.com, acorallo@gnu.org,
	spwhitton@spwhitton.name
Subject: bug#69097: [PATCH] Add 'kill-region-or-word' command
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2024 10:02:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o752ju4a.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86a5gm4ec7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 05 Sep 2024 12:52:40 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  stefankangas@gmail.com,
>>   acorallo@gnu.org,  juri@linkov.net,  rms@gnu.org,  69097@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2024 09:39:32 +0000
>> 
>> >> I think I'm missing something here.  When it's nil and there is no
>> >> *active* region, but there is a region, it should kill that, surely?
>> >> With or without TMM.
>> >
>> > Yes, you are right.  It sounds like we made wrong assumptions about
>> > what happens in that case, and should rethink this.
>> >
>> > C-w signals an error only if there's no mark in the buffer.
>> >
>> > So I guess we need a new command after all.
>> 
>> Not necessarily (unless I am mistaken above), but I am not opposed to it either.
>
> If we don't introduce a new command, then what will be the modified
> behavior of kill-region?  Specifically, when will it delete the last
> word?  

If the new user option is non-nil /and/ there is no region.  If
`kill-region-dwim' is nil (default), then nothing should change.

>        
>        In Emacs buffers, it is very rare not to have the mark, so it
> sounds like the Bash-like behavior will very rarely if ever available,
> no?

It will kick-in whenever `use-region-p' returns a non-nil value.  I
recognise that this isn't useful for people who don't rely on transient
mark mode, but in that case we'll need to commands anyway, as I don't
want to use the behaviour that Sean describes.

-- 
	Philip Kaludercic on siskin





  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-05 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-13  9:55 bug#69097: [PATCH] Add 'kill-region-or-word' command Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-17  3:53 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]   ` <87ttm7gi9i.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-19  3:44     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]       ` <87sf1obkw9.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-23  3:04         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]           ` <871q93rzv8.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-25  3:16             ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]               ` <87frxgn73g.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-27  3:12                 ` Richard Stallman
2024-05-03  7:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 10:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 10:48     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 10:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 11:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 17:32           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 18:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 19:41               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-04  6:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05  6:53                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05  9:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 16:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 16:54                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 16:59                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 17:08                           ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 18:27                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 17:05                         ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 17:13                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 17:53                             ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06  0:21                       ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 16:46                     ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 16:51                       ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 17:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07  8:47                           ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-07  8:47                             ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-01 20:06                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02  6:36                             ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 11:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-02 18:30                               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-02 18:45                                 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 20:39                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02 20:42                                 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 20:45                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02 20:46                                   ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 21:12                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-03 12:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 13:53                                         ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-03 14:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 14:55                                             ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-03 15:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 16:32                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-03 16:47                                           ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-04 11:08                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-04 14:07                                           ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-04 14:21                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05  9:39                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-05  9:52                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 10:02                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2024-09-05 10:19                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 10:23                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-05 13:27                                               ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-05 14:38                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-06 10:36                                                   ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 11:06                                                     ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 11:30                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-06 13:54                                                       ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 16:32                                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-07  9:52                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-07 10:10                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-07 21:08                                                           ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-07 21:17                                                             ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 17:54                                                               ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 19:03                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-09 19:48                                                                   ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 19:23                                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14  9:12                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 11:27                                                                     ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 13:39                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 14:05                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 14:13                                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 14:24                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 16:10                                                                             ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 16:26                                                                               ` German Pacenza
2024-09-14 16:36                                                                                 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 21:19                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 21:22                                                                                 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-17 17:58                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-18 16:08                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-19  7:19                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20  6:50                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-20 16:57                                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-08 10:38                                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 16:47                   ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-03 16:20         ` Philip Kaludercic

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