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From: Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net>,  emacs-tangents@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Including AI into Emacs
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:01:23 -0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o71jmpzw.fsf@librehacker.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z1hYeQZJq1cnLmI1@lco2> (Jean Louis's message of "Tue, 10 Dec 2024 18:04:25 +0300")

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

> Sure. But every game, and every software and Emacs itself is
> artificial intelligence. It is extended mind. But now the term AI is
> used in marketing to make it easier accessible to common people.

It seems to me that some important distinctions are being blurred throughout this thread. I am seeing the term AI used to refer to three things:

(1) generally, any kind of computation or problem solving that involves computer programming;
(2) computation that involves inferences and rules (e.g., a prolog program)
(3) using LLM, i.e., "the use of large neural networks for language modeling" (wikipedia definition).

Activities (1) and (2) are things that I can do on my own computer, maybe even without having to leave Elisp or the running, single Emacs thread. For activity (3), even I can do it without the help of remote compute cluster, it is going to require a large model database, plus intense computing resources, like a separate computer, or an expensive GPU requiring proprietary drivers.

I'm open minded to integrations of (3), if they can be done cost-effectively, if they are truly useful, and if I don't have to give up my computing freedoms, but that has to be proven to me. And I don't want that approach confused with (1) and (2).

-- 
Christopher Howard

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-10 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-06 17:19 Including AI into Emacs Jean Louis
2024-12-06 18:16 ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-06 22:18   ` Jean Louis
2024-12-07  9:32     ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-07 10:30       ` Jean Louis
2024-12-07 11:29         ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-09 21:06           ` Jean Louis
2024-12-09 22:56             ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-10  8:03               ` Jean Louis
2024-12-10 10:37                 ` Bruno Barbier
2024-12-10 14:27                   ` Jean Louis
2024-12-06 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06 19:11 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2024-12-06 21:14   ` Jean Louis
2024-12-06 22:26   ` Jean Louis
2024-12-06 22:59 ` Christopher Howard
2024-12-06 23:21   ` Jean Louis
2024-12-10 10:45   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2024-12-10 15:04     ` Jean Louis
2024-12-10 17:01       ` Christopher Howard [this message]
2024-12-10 17:24         ` Jean Louis
2024-12-10 18:14           ` Christopher Howard
2024-12-11  0:11             ` Jean Louis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-12-06 17:22 Jean Louis
2024-12-06 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06 18:32   ` John Yates
2024-12-06 19:06   ` Jean Louis

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