From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Powe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: New Emacs with GTK! Date: 30 Mar 2003 01:00:37 -0500 Organization: The Hospice of the Mind Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87n0jdiebe.fsf@cecilia.trollope.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049006494 21123 80.91.224.249 (30 Mar 2003 06:41:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 06:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 30 08:41:33 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18zWVY-0005UW-00 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:41:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18zWV4-0005v8-04 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 01:41:02 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 32 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p-206.newsdawg.com X-Home-Page: http://www.trollope.org X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.8.8/GNU Emacs 21.2.1 [Linux 2.4.5] X-PGP: http://www.trollope.org/pgp.txt User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.2 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:111491 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:7991 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:7991 >>>>> "Per" == Per Abrahamsen writes: Per> Niels Freimann writes: >> Gtk isn't "the future", but the presence. Per> True. And on day, it will be the past. Per> Emacs is for the long run. During its lifetime, the Per> dominating toolkits have been at least termcap, curses, Per> terminfo, SunView, raw X10, raw X11, XView, Motif, Qt, GTK 1 Per> and GTK2; and in some circles w16, PM, w32, MFC, NeXTStep and Per> Cocoa. Per> Emacs need to be able to adopt to an ever changing Per> environment. GUI fashion come and go, only Emacs is for Per> ever. oh, yeah. God's Own Editor(tm). http://www.dina.dk/~abraham/religion/ ;-) mp -- Michael Powe Waterbury, CT USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- "It stands to reason that self-righteous, inflexible, single-minded, authoritarian true believers are politically organized. Open-minded, flexible, complex, ambiguous, anti-authoritarian people would just as soon be left to mind their own fucking business." - R.U. Sirius