From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Parrone Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: New Emacs with GTK! Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:06:32 GMT Organization: none Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87n0io5akj.fsf@marc0host.dyndns.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050664667 29890 80.91.224.249 (18 Apr 2003 11:17:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 18 13:17:45 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 196TsH-0007lp-00 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:17:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 196TnS-0000Jp-05 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2003 07:12:46 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news.mailgate.org!newsfeeder.edisontel.com!news-out.tin.it!news-in.tin.it!news2.tin.it.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.171.30.167 Original-X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@tin.it Original-X-Trace: news2.tin.it 1050663992 212.171.30.167 (Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:06:32 MET DST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:06:32 MET DST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112090 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:8589 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:8589 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Niels Freimann writes: > Hi David, > > I am running emacs -nw as an perfect vi replacement. > Therefore there is only one text editor, emacs, on my > machine. However I don't believe that in the year 2003 > when most users running linux on fast ia32 machines a tty > emacs is the future. I (and likely many others) believe the opposite. > Its rather a *nostalgia* for older users like we are. I'm not an old user, but I like using the tty, now you can see that this is not a nostaligia. X11 is big, slow, buggy, it sucks resources, it promotes for wasting time and resources (see themes, backgrounds, and likewise) and for giving more attention to the form instead than to the contents. Using the tty is more effective, less distracting, and gives you a more uniform interface and a more eyes-friendly too. > Furthermore my argument was removing anything else than gtk2 as X11 > target, Sometimes X11 is needed, and if you don't need the toolbar and the scrollbar then using GTK(2) is only a waste of hardware resources and so user time. Bye. - -- Marco Parrone - marc0@autistici.org www.autistici.org/marc0 2143 9E77 D5E6 115A 48AD A170 D0EE F736 (4E88 99C2) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 iD8DBQE+n9wV0O73Nk6ImcIRAmtIAKDXJ4nT3+xnC9zkNYJpVle7rcP0OQCgwO++ oMmuuLoEeoc0sIzH7Ose0lU= =P7fl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----