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From: Marco Parrone <marc0@autistici.org>
Subject: Re: New Emacs with GTK!
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:06:32 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87n0io5akj.fsf@marc0host.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.4867.1050659882.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

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Niels Freimann <nfreimann@firemail.de> writes:

> Hi David,
> 
> I am running emacs -nw as an perfect vi replacement.
> Therefore there is only one text editor, emacs, on my
> machine. However I don't believe that in the year 2003 
> when most users running linux on fast ia32 machines a tty 
> emacs is the future. 

I (and likely many others) believe the opposite.

> Its rather a *nostalgia* for older users like we are.

I'm not an old user, but I like using the tty, now you can see that
this is not a nostaligia.

X11 is big, slow, buggy, it sucks resources, it promotes for wasting
time and resources (see themes, backgrounds, and likewise) and for
giving more attention to the form instead than to the contents.

Using the tty is more effective, less distracting, and gives you a
more uniform interface and a more eyes-friendly too.

> Furthermore my argument was removing anything else than gtk2 as X11
> target,

Sometimes X11 is needed, and if you don't need the toolbar and the
scrollbar then using GTK(2) is only a waste of hardware resources and
so user time.

Bye.

- -- 
Marco Parrone - marc0@autistici.org
www.autistici.org/marc0
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-18 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3339.1048022690.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-19 20:26 ` New Emacs with GTK! kgold
2003-03-19 20:47   ` Peter Lee
2003-03-19 20:53   ` Alan Shutko
2003-03-20  5:57   ` Miles Bader
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3402.1048139855.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-22 18:03     ` Michael Powe
2003-03-23  9:55       ` Niels Freimann
2003-03-23 16:08         ` Daniel R. Anderson
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3520.1048436082.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-24  2:14           ` Jason Earl
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3512.1048413524.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 11:18         ` Edward O'Connor
2003-03-23 12:00           ` Niels Freimann
2003-03-23 17:06             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3514.1048420980.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 14:17             ` A. L. Meyers
2003-03-23 16:09               ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]               ` <mailman.3519.1048435867.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-23 18:09                 ` Hubert Chan
2003-03-23 22:01                 ` Jason Rumney
2003-03-24  1:24                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24  7:26                   ` Miles Bader
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3552.1048490983.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-25  0:11                     ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25  0:57                       ` Jesper Harder
2003-03-25 10:42                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-25 15:48                 ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-25 16:16                 ` François Fleuret
2003-04-18  4:05               ` David Combs
2003-04-18  7:18                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-19 20:00                   ` Michael Powe
2003-04-19 20:01                   ` Michael Powe
2003-04-18  4:13               ` David Combs
2003-04-18  9:55                 ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4867.1050659882.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-04-18 11:06                   ` Marco Parrone [this message]
2003-04-18 11:23                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-18 13:25                     ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.4874.1050672434.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-04-18 14:38                       ` Alan Shutko
2003-04-18 14:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-18 15:31                       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-23 15:56             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-25 16:26             ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-30  6:00               ` Michael Powe
2003-03-31 20:36                 ` John Russell
2003-03-31 20:52                   ` David Kastrup
2003-03-31 21:14                     ` John Russell
2003-03-31 21:20                       ` David Kastrup
2003-03-31 22:39                         ` John Russell
2003-03-31 21:01                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-31 22:04                     ` David Kastrup
2003-04-01 12:27                       ` Sven Utcke
2003-04-01 12:52                         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-01 15:51                           ` Sven Utcke
2003-04-01 16:21                             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-01 13:49                         ` David Kastrup
2003-04-01 16:29                       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-02  1:59                         ` Miles Bader
2003-04-01 17:19                       ` Ole Laursen
2003-03-23 16:10         ` Michael Powe
2003-03-23 19:08           ` Alan Shutko
2003-03-24  0:46             ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24  2:17               ` Jason Earl
2003-03-24 23:52                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25 15:58                 ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-25 17:28                   ` Daniel R. Anderson
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3619.1048613765.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-03-26  7:27                     ` Tim X
2003-03-26 10:49                       ` Ed Cavazos
2003-03-26 16:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-01 12:23                       ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-26 13:34                     ` Garglemonster
2003-04-01 12:13                     ` Sven Utcke
2003-03-23 20:33           ` Daniel Jensen
2003-03-24  1:01             ` Michael Powe
2003-03-24 13:42               ` Bijan Soleymani
2003-03-25 12:25               ` David Kastrup
2003-03-30  5:52                 ` Michael Powe
2003-03-25 16:38           ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-03-25 16:07         ` Hallvard B Furuseth
2003-03-23  2:20 Nick Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-18 21:20 Hans Larsen
2003-03-04  8:56 New Emacs with GTK? Peter Wu
2003-03-04  9:50 ` David Kastrup
2003-03-04 13:27   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-12  7:16 ` Matthew Kennedy
2003-03-13  3:59   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13  6:00     ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-13  6:23       ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13  8:37         ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-15 18:14           ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 11:33             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-13  7:58       ` Yongtao Yang
2003-03-13  8:30         ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2003-03-13 16:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-03-13  8:38   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-13 10:58     ` David Kastrup
2003-03-14  2:56       ` Peter Wu
2003-03-14 10:10         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-03-15 17:52           ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 11:56             ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-15 17:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-03-16  2:10               ` Peter Wu
2003-03-15 14:03                 ` Marco Parrone
2003-03-19  3:54                   ` Peter Wu
2003-03-16  2:34               ` Peter Wu

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