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From: Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: constant `e'
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:42:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mz3mfak6.fsf@wigwam.brockman.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 85lkj66x27.fsf@lola.goethe.zz

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

>> Of course it's an idiom.  That doesn't mean it looks good.
>
> Lisp is not designed to look good.

That doesn't mean it looks bad.  S-expressions won.
They weren't meant to be beautiful, but they are.

Apparently you are saying Lisp is so ugly that there is no
point in attempting to make it look nicer.  Is that right?

Then explain why we have aliases such as `not'.

>> I, as a speaker of Emacs Lisp, would prefer not to use
>> this idiom if `otherwise' became an accepted alternative.
>
> It didn't.  Try getting it into Common Lisp first.

It's already there, and I already mentioned it (`case').

Scheme has `else'.  Dylan has `otherwise'.  Those are both
modern lisps in which this has become an accepted alternative.

I'm not going to try to get `otherwise' into CL's `cond',
simply because I don't use CL and I don't care about it.
(Even if I did, I wouldn't hope to be able to change it.)

-- 
Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se>

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-10 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-09  7:37 constant `e' Drew Adams
2007-02-09  9:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-09 11:24   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-09 15:08   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-09 15:19     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-09 15:34       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-10 17:40       ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-09 18:33     ` Jay Belanger
2007-02-09 18:51       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-09 14:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-09 14:32   ` Leo
2007-02-09 23:11     ` Kim F. Storm
2007-02-10  0:16       ` Drew Adams
2007-02-12 18:11         ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-02-10 17:39     ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-09 14:37   ` David Kastrup
2007-02-10 17:39     ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-09 15:33   ` Drew Adams
2007-02-09 16:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-09 16:50       ` Drew Adams
2007-02-10  9:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-02-09 23:07   ` Dieter Wilhelm
2007-02-10 17:39     ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-10 18:41     ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2007-02-10 21:12       ` Dieter Wilhelm
2007-02-10  9:29   ` Kevin Rodgers
2007-02-10 19:13     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-10 19:22       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-02-10 19:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-10 20:32           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-02-12  5:04             ` Kevin Rodgers
2007-02-12 16:06               ` Drew Adams
2007-02-10  6:27 ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-10  8:59   ` David Kastrup
2007-02-10 11:35     ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-10 12:01       ` David Kastrup
2007-02-10 12:42         ` Daniel Brockman [this message]
2007-02-10 12:43       ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-02-10 14:33         ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-10 18:05           ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-02-10 18:29             ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-12 19:03           ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-02-12 19:57             ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-10 17:38         ` David Kastrup
2007-02-10 18:15           ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-12 18:51           ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-02-10 19:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-10 20:48         ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-10 21:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-11  9:42           ` David Kastrup
2007-02-11 17:53             ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-10 21:34       ` Edward O'Connor
2007-02-12 19:17       ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-02-12 20:37         ` Daniel Brockman
2007-02-12 20:40           ` David Kastrup
2007-02-10 17:41   ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-10  9:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-02-10  9:51   ` Jason Rumney
2007-02-12 18:16     ` Stuart D. Herring
2007-02-10 15:13   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-10 19:12   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-02-11  0:43   ` David Hansen
2007-02-11  1:13     ` Jay Belanger
2007-02-11  1:24   ` Drew Adams
2007-02-10 18:53 ` Chong Yidong
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-13  2:34 djh
2007-02-13  8:23 ` Werner LEMBERG

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