Re: emacs' icon on X ?

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[A Soare]

> Message du 19/04/07 à 01h11
> De : "Jason Rumney" <jasonr@gnu.org>
> A : alinsoar@voila.fr
> Copie à : "Emacs Dev [emacs-devel]" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Objet : Re: emacs' icon on X ?
> 
> A Soare wrote:
> > Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
> >
> > On Mac I saw one nice icon and another one that I do not know if it is on mac. Why do you not change it on X too?
> >
> >   
> 
> It has been changed on X, but if your window manager is not capable of 
> displaying nice icons, it will not look nice. I just tried with tmm, and 
> it does a terrible conversion to monochrome.
> 
> 
I use on my laptop KDE with a NVIDIA card and nvidia driver and everything looks excellent. But for emacs' icon!

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Chong Yidong]

A Soare <alinsoar@voila.fr> writes:

>> > Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
>> 
> I use on my laptop KDE with a NVIDIA card and nvidia driver and
> everything looks excellent. But for emacs' icon!

You're probably referring to the Emacs icon packaged by KDE.  It's not
been updated to the Emacs 22 icon, but that's out of our control.

Note the following item from FOR-RELEASE:

  ** Send an email to the various distributions, including the GNOME
  and KDE projects, to use the new Emacs icons in etc/images/icons.

(BTW, would someone like to do that?)

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Vinicius Jose Latorre]

 > >>>  And is that an official wish?  For a identical perception on all
 > >>> platforms?
 > >
 > >> Quite so.
 > >
 > > Just wondering:
 > >
 > >     $ pnginfo /usr/share/emacs/22.0.98/etc/images/icons/emacs_48.png
 > >     [...]
 > >     Software (tEXt uncompressed): Macromedia Fireworks 8
 > >     [...]
 > >
 > > Somewhat surprising that "official" FSF icons were made with non-free
 > > software. ;-)
 >
 > GNU Emacs is developed by volunteers, not FSF employees.
 >
 > On the other hand, there is no point giving Macromedia free
 > advertising, so I removed the metadata.  Thanks for pointing this out.


Well, now the icons have a white background instead of a transparent 
background
(as it was before).

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Vinicius Jose Latorre]

Vinicius Jose Latorre wrote:
> > >>>  And is that an official wish?  For a identical perception on all
> > >>> platforms?
> > >
> > >> Quite so.
> > >
> > > Just wondering:
> > >
> > >     $ pnginfo /usr/share/emacs/22.0.98/etc/images/icons/emacs_48.png
> > >     [...]
> > >     Software (tEXt uncompressed): Macromedia Fireworks 8
> > >     [...]
> > >
> > > Somewhat surprising that "official" FSF icons were made with non-free
> > > software. ;-)
> >
> > GNU Emacs is developed by volunteers, not FSF employees.
> >
> > On the other hand, there is no point giving Macromedia free
> > advertising, so I removed the metadata.  Thanks for pointing this out.
>
>
> Well, now the icons have a white background instead of a transparent 
> background
> (as it was before).


Fixed.

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[A Soare]

> 
> >> > Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
> >> 
> > I use on my laptop KDE with a NVIDIA card and nvidia driver and
> > everything looks excellent. But for emacs' icon!
> 
> You're probably referring to the Emacs icon packaged by KDE.  It's not
> been updated to the Emacs 22 icon, but that's out of our control.
> 
> Note the following item from FOR-RELEASE:
> 
>   ** Send an email to the various distributions, including the GNOME
>   and KDE projects, to use the new Emacs icons in etc/images/icons.
> 
> (BTW, would someone like to do that?)


I said in this morning that I send today to KDE/GNOME, but I still would like to ask somebody else to talk with their developement team. It is better so, because I do not know if everybody wants that etc/images/icons be installed everywhere, etcetera.


Alin Soare.

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Christian Faulhammer]

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A Soare <alinsoar@voila.fr>:

> >   ** Send an email to the various distributions, including the GNOME
> >   and KDE projects, to use the new Emacs icons in etc/images/icons.
> > (BTW, would someone like to do that?)
> I said in this morning that I send today to KDE/GNOME, but I still
> would like to ask somebody else to talk with their developement team.
> It is better so, because I do not know if everybody wants that
> etc/images/icons be installed everywhere, etcetera.

 Gentoo is aware of it, so no need to write to them.

V-Li

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Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Frank Schmitt]

Christian Faulhammer <v-li@gmx.de> writes:

>> >   ** Send an email to the various distributions, including the GNOME
>> >   and KDE projects, to use the new Emacs icons in etc/images/icons.
>> > (BTW, would someone like to do that?)
>> I said in this morning that I send today to KDE/GNOME, but I still
>> would like to ask somebody else to talk with their developement team.
>> It is better so, because I do not know if everybody wants that
>> etc/images/icons be installed everywhere, etcetera.
>
>  Gentoo is aware of it, so no need to write to them.

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Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[A Soare]

> A Soare <alinsoar@voila.fr>:
> > > Note the following item from FOR-RELEASE:
> > >   ** Send an email to the various distributions, including the GNOME
> > >   and KDE projects, to use the new Emacs icons in etc/images/icons.
> > > (BTW, would someone like to do that?)
> > I will send now.
>  
>  Gentoo uses the icon taken from Gnome.
> 
> > What icon shell I propose for install?
> 
>  And is that an official wish?  For a identical perception on all
> platforms?
> 

I do not know...

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[A Soare]

> 
> >> > Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
> >> 
> > I use on my laptop KDE with a NVIDIA card and nvidia driver and
> > everything looks excellent. But for emacs' icon!
> 
> You're probably referring to the Emacs icon packaged by KDE.  It's not
> been updated to the Emacs 22 icon, but that's out of our control.
> 
> Note the following item from FOR-RELEASE:
> 
>   ** Send an email to the various distributions, including the GNOME
>   and KDE projects, to use the new Emacs icons in etc/images/icons.
> 
> (BTW, would someone like to do that?)

I will send now.

What icon shell I propose for install?



Alin Soare.

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Christian Faulhammer]

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A Soare <alinsoar@voila.fr>:
> > Note the following item from FOR-RELEASE:
> >   ** Send an email to the various distributions, including the GNOME
> >   and KDE projects, to use the new Emacs icons in etc/images/icons.
> > (BTW, would someone like to do that?)
> I will send now.
 
 Gentoo uses the icon taken from Gnome.

> What icon shell I propose for install?

 And is that an official wish?  For a identical perception on all
platforms?

V-Li

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Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[David Kastrup]

Christian Faulhammer <v-li@gmx.de> writes:

> A Soare <alinsoar@voila.fr>:
>> > Note the following item from FOR-RELEASE:
>> >   ** Send an email to the various distributions, including the GNOME
>> >   and KDE projects, to use the new Emacs icons in etc/images/icons.
>> > (BTW, would someone like to do that?)
>> I will send now.
>  
>  Gentoo uses the icon taken from Gnome.
>
>> What icon shell I propose for install?
>
>  And is that an official wish?  For a identical perception on all
> platforms?

Quite so.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Ulrich Mueller]

>>>>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, David Kastrup wrote:

> Christian Faulhammer <v-li@gmx.de> writes:
>>  And is that an official wish?  For a identical perception on all
>> platforms?

> Quite so.

Just wondering: 

    $ pnginfo /usr/share/emacs/22.0.98/etc/images/icons/emacs_48.png
    [...]
    Software (tEXt uncompressed): Macromedia Fireworks 8
    [...]

Somewhat surprising that "official" FSF icons were made with non-free
software. ;-)

Ulrich

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Chong Yidong]

Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> writes:

>> Christian Faulhammer <v-li@gmx.de> writes:
>>>  And is that an official wish?  For a identical perception on all
>>> platforms?
>
>> Quite so.
>
> Just wondering: 
>
>     $ pnginfo /usr/share/emacs/22.0.98/etc/images/icons/emacs_48.png
>     [...]
>     Software (tEXt uncompressed): Macromedia Fireworks 8
>     [...]
>
> Somewhat surprising that "official" FSF icons were made with non-free
> software. ;-)

GNU Emacs is developed by volunteers, not FSF employees.

On the other hand, there is no point giving Macromedia free
advertising, so I removed the metadata.  Thanks for pointing this out.

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Ulrich Mueller]

>>>>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Chong Yidong wrote:

>> $ pnginfo /usr/share/emacs/22.0.98/etc/images/icons/emacs_48.png
>> [...]
>> Software (tEXt uncompressed): Macromedia Fireworks 8
>> [...]

> On the other hand, there is no point giving Macromedia free
> advertising, so I removed the metadata.  Thanks for pointing this out.

New icon, similar issue (for the SVG file as well):

    $ pnginfo etc/images/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/emacs.png
    [...]
    Software (xTXt deflate compressed): Adobe ImageReady
    [...]

Ulrich

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[A Soare]

If one googles for emacs, one finds another EMACS ICON: its name is emacs !

http://www.thoroughlymorgan.com/emacs/emacs.html

(ce n'est qu'un chat errant).

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[A Soare]

> Message du 19/04/07 à 01h09
> De : "Vinicius Jose Latorre" <viniciusjl@ig.com.br>
> A : alinsoar@voila.fr
> Copie à : "Emacs Dev [emacs-devel]" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Objet : Re: emacs' icon on X ?
> 
> A Soare wrote:
> > Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
> >
> > On Mac I saw one nice icon and another one that I do not know if it is on mac. Why do you not change it on X too?
> >   
> 
> BTW, could you send a screenshot  of Emacs icon on Mac?
> 
> 

Here is a beautiful one that I do not know whether it it used on mac or not:

http://www2.ing.unipi.it/~d9615/homepage/mac/myemacsicon.png


And here that one used on mac:

http://www.apfelwiki.de/Main/Emacs?action=imgpopup&image=EmacsCarbonIcon.png

And here one that I did not know about:

http://fhornoy.linux62.org/Nuvola_apps_emacs.png

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Vinicius Jose Latorre]

A Soare wrote:
>> Message du 19/04/07 à 01h09
>> De : "Vinicius Jose Latorre" <viniciusjl@ig.com.br>
>> A : alinsoar@voila.fr
>> Copie à : "Emacs Dev [emacs-devel]" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>> Objet : Re: emacs' icon on X ?
>>
>> A Soare wrote:
>>     
>>> Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
>>>
>>> On Mac I saw one nice icon and another one that I do not know if it is on mac. Why do you not change it on X too?
>>>       
>> BTW, could you send a screenshot  of Emacs icon on Mac?
>>     
>
> Here is a beautiful one that I do not know whether it it used on mac or not:
>
> http://www2.ing.unipi.it/~d9615/homepage/mac/myemacsicon.png
>
> And here that one used on mac:
>
> http://www.apfelwiki.de/Main/Emacs?action=imgpopup&image=EmacsCarbonIcon.png
>
> And here one that I did not know about:
>
> http://fhornoy.linux62.org/Nuvola_apps_emacs.png
>   


Ok, what do you think about the new Emacs icons?

http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsIcons

emacs' icon on X ?

[A Soare]

Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.

On Mac I saw one nice icon and another one that I do not know if it is on mac. Why do you not change it on X too?




A soare.

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Lennart Borgman (gmail)]

A Soare wrote:
> Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
> 
> On Mac I saw one nice icon and another one that I do not know if it is on mac. Why do you not change it on X too?

There was a small competition/evaluation of different icons about 1.5 
years ago. The discussion was here on devel and the icons you can find 
here (Andrew Zhilin's icons where choosen):

   http://ourcomments.org/Emacs/NewIcons.html

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Jason Rumney]

A Soare wrote:
> Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
>
> On Mac I saw one nice icon and another one that I do not know if it is on mac. Why do you not change it on X too?
>
>   

It has been changed on X, but if your window manager is not capable of 
displaying nice icons, it will not look nice. I just tried with tmm, and 
it does a terrible conversion to monochrome.

Re: emacs' icon on X ?

[Vinicius Jose Latorre]

A Soare wrote:
> Why does nobody make a nice icon for emacs? For a nice thing a nice icon.
>
> On Mac I saw one nice icon and another one that I do not know if it is on mac. Why do you not change it on X too?
>   

BTW, could you send a screenshot  of Emacs icon on Mac?