From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (fn ...) - please fill it at the point of generation Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: <87myrtosbq.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198980108 7425 80.91.229.12 (30 Dec 2007 02:01:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:01:48 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 30 03:02:03 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J8nV3-00058j-Uj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:02:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J8nUi-0001eD-Hw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:01:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J8nUf-0001dz-0e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:01:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J8nUd-0001di-4c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:01:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J8nUc-0001df-TU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:01:34 -0500 Original-Received: from ppp-64-39.21-151.libero.it ([151.21.39.64] helo=ambire.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J8nUc-0007ws-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:01:34 -0500 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire.localdomain with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J8nSz-00044e-E9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:59:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:04:22 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85659 Archived-At: () "Drew Adams" () Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:04:22 -0800 It makes the distinction you speak of only after the fact, it makes the distinction at the time the distinction matters. And no, a string is not a good representation of a data structure with two components. I agree that it can be better to have a single data structure for this, with two components (doc and signature), but a string is not a good choice for such a structure. we have text and we have other objects inside emacs. outside of emacs, we don't have other objects (at least, not in the same way as inside emacs). simulating them w/ text is the next best thing when crossing the boundary. `help-split-fundoc'. I wasn't aware of it. me neither. i'm glad you found it's name. thi