From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:52:29 +0000 Message-ID: <87myrjpygi.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <20080104164454.0A4BD830697@snark.thyrsus.com> <20080104232514.GB2735@muc.de> <87r6gxoyjv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87abnkq6ei.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y7b3q26j.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199580782 7536 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2008 00:53:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 00:53:02 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 06 01:53:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBJlN-0008Sh-Sd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 01:53:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBJkz-0007AS-QL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:52:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBJku-00077E-TJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:52:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBJkp-00070Z-VL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:52:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBJkp-00070W-S1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com ([72.14.214.233]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBJkp-0006rW-5f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 23so1022714huc.1 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=MCFDB/LtFjmBbD3EaaUH3lqAgu/1no0QoHrX5yajLXU=; b=aNOattCZMG7RGq6Sk6HT/wAUgCaWLPp4sJMzBSFYnkdHAmHZs0VZ6FN7RSTIMGngL7AZRafSO4mgVjuOw/ePHHy4/b4pE+8+HuLSJ6RKb8eGkPinF/NjU3oaI0Ia40xXxhjaWlX5X2ZpA1Nc1D2XFqyH3ER5yF8BVs8FrZ4+Bkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=ms+/OsuB7QN9w4Y32cWjjWxncxDIYLHHsXwIx/PkebaLhioyYxaZbDTiQuuO7HoJb2wZ/8nDQTe+Zwaj1uRUs+EGKTEfYUdsjPfvXOeIGxXBoFt7phHkFNrRhq1KdR453h72xPRp2nNmOyAHfLwejzFfnmmUPH3gqLEq6270UvA= Original-Received: by 10.82.112.3 with SMTP id k3mr32735779buc.31.1199580751570; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ( [81.157.28.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f4sm5422282nfh.31.2008.01.05.16.52.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Jan 2008 16:52:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by bzg.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E3711157977; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 00:52:29 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <87y7b3q26j.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:32:04 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86269 Archived-At: Bastien writes: > I think that using org-mode can help Emacs developers to make a more > effective use of the Emacs TODO file. This sounds like a reasonable > (i.e. incremental, Emacs-based) proposal in the context of this long > discussion about productivity enhancement. I've edited the current CVS etc/TODO file and made it org friendly: http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/u/TODO.org Open this file in Emacs with a recent version of Org (say >5.00), and activate the column view with C-c C-x C-c. It will display something like a table (via overlays) showing metadata attached to each item. You can see these columns: status, importance, owner, version, system, milestone, and file. Org-mode lets you select items depending on tags, keywords, properties, etc., so that it's easy to quickly review query through this, as you would do through a web-based bug tracker. I just spent 10 minutes editing this TODO file, just to give a flavor of what can be done with org-mode. Of course, the information we want to handle depends on the conventions we use as a collective workflow. Even if we don't draw any automatic bridge between the mailing list and such an Org file, I think it's worth enhancing the current TODO file... -- Bastien