From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Carmody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:46:44 +0300 Organization: Saunalahti Customer Message-ID: <87mykaw8sb.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216723255 2577 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 10:40:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:40:55 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 12:41:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLFJI-0007UQ-FK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:41:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58551 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLFIP-0007It-87 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:40:41 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!feeder.erje.net!feeder2.news.saunalahti.fi!reader1.news.saunalahti.fi!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3vduXCO5exllhGlAzSdTHTEHTCg= Original-Lines: 41 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.143.57.195 Original-X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@saunalahti.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.news.saunalahti.fi 1216720020 83.143.57.195 (Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:00 EEST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:47:00 EEST Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160437 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55784 Archived-At: Xah writes: > I don't think its a good idea to teach or insist that people adopt > emacs's terminologies. When discussing emacs? That's a rather bizarre thing to say. > In particular, the term buffer is unsuitable and outdated. See the > following argument: > > ---------------------------- > > Q: The Terminology “buffer” and “keybinding” is good as they are. > > A: > The terminology “buffer” or “keybinding”, are technical terms having > to do with software programing. The term “keybinding” refers to the > association of a keystroke with a command in a technical, software > application programing context. That is to say, a programer “bind” a > keystroke event to a command in a software application. The term > “buffer” refers to a abstract, temporary area for storing data, in the > context of programing or computer science. > > These terms are irrelevant to the users of a software application. Blatant assertion I disagree with completely. > As a user of a text editor, he works with files. Blatant assertion I disagree with completely. As a user of a text editor, I work with text. And I want it neatly buffered for me. I may occasionally load some of the text from a file, and I may occasionally save some of the text to a file, but the majority of the buffers that I use never undergo either. [SNIP - stuff I presume is either predicated upon your prior unacceptable assertions, or introducing new ones.] Phil -- Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all. -- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration