From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johannes Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:34:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87myk86jl6.fsf@saeurebad.de> References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <87ej5nxew2.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87wsje37rg.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1li7xy.fsf@saeurebad.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216870566 8812 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 03:36:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 05:36:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLrdO-0001wW-Am for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:36:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38145 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLrcU-0007ag-Pp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:35:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLrbt-00072p-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:35:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLrbs-00071r-91 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53448 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLrbs-00071g-2k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]:37255) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLrbj-0002Q3-AZ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) id 34E012F0048; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:35:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (83-221-69-159.dynamic.primacom.net [83.221.69.159]) by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937E82F0006; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:35:09 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:24:17 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101367 Archived-At: Hi, Richard M Stallman writes: > You might want to throttle your auto-responder that triggers whenever > someone refers to `Linux' without the GNU/ prefix. > > That is an insulting thing to say. I thought about how to respond > to your message, as I always do. My term was ambiguous to you. You chose to respond as if I have been factually wrong rather than having said something debatable. So I felt insulted too. > I really MEANT the kernel. > > In that case, you could have made your meaning unambiguous by saying > "kernel". Since we were talking about Windows, which is a complete > operating system (not a kernel), it was entirely reasonable for me to > think you too meant a complete system. > > Quoting wikipedia: > > An operating system (commonly abbreviated OS and O/S) is the software > component of a computer system that is responsible for the management > and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of the > computer. The operating system acts as a host for application programs > that are run on the machine. > > That is one of the two customary meanings of operating system. > The other customary meaning refers to the whole system. > > Wikipedia ought to mention both, but I cannot fight them > over this. Is there a `them' in Wikipedia? :-) Hannes