From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add lgrep/rgrep commands to Edit > Search submenu Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:45:03 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87mydf9i1s.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87y6x0ph4x.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87skn7w85h.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <004301c97f27$9371ca50$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232920885 9755 80.91.229.12 (25 Jan 2009 22:01:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "'Kim F. Storm'" To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 23:02:38 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LRD3o-0005Gh-8y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:02:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44535 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRD2W-0007Cv-L5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:01:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRD0p-0005CF-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:59:27 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRD0o-0005Aq-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:59:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48708 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRD0n-0005An-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:59:26 -0500 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]:3211) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LRD0n-0008HK-GN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:59:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LRD0k-000CCS-M1; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:59:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <004301c97f27$9371ca50$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:00:30 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 5bcd58edb95cdacf596e852bfe0375ec X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108237 Archived-At: > All search stuff should be together, in a Search menu. That includes things like > grep and occur. > > It doesn't matter much whether Search is a submenu of the Edit menu or the Tools > menu. However, one reason to not put Search under Edit could be that some modes > might want to remove Edit but keep search stuff. > > Personally, I put the Search menu at the top level. And I include as submenus of > Search things like replace, tags, bookmarks, and goto. Those are all > search-like, IMO. I think this is a good idea because currently even "Go To" submenu contains search commands like "Find Tag", "Tags Apropos". > FWIW, I also agree with Kim's suggestion (on the bug list) to move Options from > the top level. I'd sooner see Options under Edit, and Search at the top level. > Or both under Edit. Or Options under Edit and Search under Tools. > > Typical places for setting preferences are under Edit or File. Moving Options > from the top level to Edit or File would obviate some of the problems (e.g. > currently, for GNUS, in the bug list) for menu-bar space. And users would still > have no problem finding Options - they do so for other apps (Options typically > being called something like Preferences, Settings, or Configure Settings). What is interesting is that Firefox has the Preferences item under Edit on GNU/Linux, but under Tools on Windows. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/