From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs is on Bazaar now. Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:40:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87my11o9fk.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87d4206n80.fsf@canonical.com> <83tyvaewjg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262115700 13096 80.91.229.12 (29 Dec 2009 19:41:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:41:40 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 29 20:41:33 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NPhwc-00066W-Cq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:41:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55363 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NPhwc-0002vl-PV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:41:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NPhwW-0002v5-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:41:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NPhwS-0002tN-6w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:41:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39230 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NPhwS-0002tK-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:41:16 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:38192) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NPhwR-0001WA-K1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:41:16 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NPhwP-000612-2N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:41:13 +0100 Original-Received: from 174.red-83-45-255.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.45.255.174]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:41:13 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 174.red-83-45-255.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:41:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.red-83-45-255.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TYWQjS0MJPTdsBgNj0wJx/vjTKo= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118966 Archived-At: James Cloos writes: > On a 64-bit box (Linux kernel, GNU userland) the initial branch caused > the python process to boloon to over two gigs of vm, most kept resident. What version are you using? For me, it required approx 1 GB on a 64 bit GNU/Linux machine. (bzr 2.0.1, python 2.6.4, http) > One'll need a big box to work with the new repo. You need lots of memory for the initial branch. For the rest of operations, I think you need much less memory. Branching from the local trunk mirror required ~180 MB for me, using a shared repository. > I can imagine that it'll be a significant load on the server, too. With http/sftp, bazaar transfers a lot of data but as it is CPU-bound too, it does not hit the server too hard. The bzr protocol (or bzr+ssh) causes a noticeable cpu load on the server. > Too bad bzr is written in python. > > How painful is it to grab an additional branch from the main repo over > sftp, comared to the grab of trunk? Ie, did the initial branch grab > just the history of trunk, or di it grab the hsitory of all of the > branches? Grabbing and additional branch requires a fraction of the cost of the initial branch. Bzr will transfer only the missing revisions. IIRC it required 22 minutes for the initial branch (trunk) and 4 minutes for multi-tty. -- Óscar