From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:45:27 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87mxzq7r7c.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <4B633B7C.8030700@gmx.de> <873a1nvlki.fsf@gmail.com> <4B65B180.5010202@gmx.de> <87ock8pb21.fsf@xemacs.org> <87wryv8gct.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265179582 480 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2010 06:46:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 06:46:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 03 07:46:19 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcZ0E-0002zM-Br for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:46:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36120 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcZ0D-0002zq-JB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:46:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NcZ04-0002zk-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:46:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36112 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcZ03-0002zY-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:46:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcYzz-00070a-SY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:46:05 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:53503) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcYzy-0006zY-Kr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcYzq-0002mg-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:45:54 +0100 Original-Received: from p5b2c2965.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.41.101]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:45:54 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c2965.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:45:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c2965.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tTM21UV7uXuWY9mpJ6Uxa/x+zeA= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120845 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:42 PM, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Whether or not you take a moral stance does not imply that everybody >> else in the system does.  There is enough free software that nobody >> bothers anymore about morals.  People contribute to free software >> because it hardly makes a difference and is what others do.  There is >> lots of free software by now, and little morals. > > > Maybe you are right, but there is perhaps a couple of things to notice: > > - Quality: This is in my opinion a critical thing for free software. It is because most people can't be bothered about freedom. > If the quality is not good enough it will be a burdon to use free > software. This is a moral question then, especially since there are > still people that needs free software because of the cost. Free software is not about cost. -- David Kastrup