From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yavor Doganov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX. Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:44:53 +0200 Organization: The GNU Emacs Church (Bulgarian eparchy) Message-ID: <87mxy9zzoq.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor@gnu.org> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268646331 32254 80.91.229.12 (15 Mar 2010 09:45:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:45:31 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 15 10:45:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nr6rV-0007fZ-8b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:45:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39139 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nr6rU-0002wc-FK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nr6rL-0002wX-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:45:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40113 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nr6rJ-0002wP-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:45:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nr6rF-0006L9-F8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:45:13 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:59948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nr6rF-0006Kw-9C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nr6rC-0007XB-D4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:45:06 +0100 Original-Received: from 213.91.219.2 ([213.91.219.2]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:45:06 +0100 Original-Received: from yavor by 213.91.219.2 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:45:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.91.219.2 In-Reply-To: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/23.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-Jabber-ID: doganov@jabber.minus273.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121992 Archived-At: Chong Yidong wrote: > Every graphical user interface created in the last X years puts the > scroll bar on the right. Not true -- on GNUstep it is by default on the left (although it can be controlled via the NSScrollViewInterfaceStyle user default which was implemented at least 3-4 years ago). David Kastrup wrote: > But the scrollbar is on the left for a reason: _if_ you use the mouse > for editing, you'll use it more often than not on the left (until Eli's > work gets merged). And the larger the windows are made horizontally, > the more of a nuisance it is to move the mouse. This makes sense to me. I suspect that's one of the reasons why NeXT made such decision.