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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: d-s-m default: Nil + explanation!
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:24:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mxxw6c7b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: e01d8a51003242122g398dd235sb65e2a01788c56c4@mail.gmail.com

Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Memnon Anon
> <gegendosenfleisch@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to give a small explanation, why I think Nil is the better
>> default.
>
> Thanks for giving your opinion.
>
>
>> I think changing to D-S-M as a default is throwing dust into the eyes of
>> the new users: Emacs is different. And without a minimal willingness to
>> read the documentation, one will certainly fail.
>
> I see no reason that they should have to read something before they
> can do even the simplest editing.

There is no point in reverting to polemics until we have even decided
what we are talking about.

For example, there was one proposal that the equivalent of
delete-selection-mode was enabled for all marking operations (mouse,
shift-selection) that new user would be tempted to use, coming from
other editing environments.

This proposal was basically shouted down with "I want
delete-selection-mode for all and won't accept less", and with polemics
of the "even the simplest editing" kind.

Any attempts of mine to narrow down the issue to separately decidable
(and configurable) issues have been ignored: one or two postings later
we are back to polemics.

-- 
David Kastrup





  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain>
2010-03-24 20:20 ` d-s-m default: nil Ulf Jasper
2010-03-24 20:26   ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-25  0:24 ` d-s-m default: Nil + explanation! (was: d-s-m default) Memnon Anon
2010-03-25  4:22   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25  8:24     ` David Kastrup [this message]
2010-03-25 13:03       ` d-s-m default: Nil + explanation! Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 13:18         ` David Kastrup
2010-03-25 13:27           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 14:21             ` Davis Herring
2010-03-25 14:42               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 15:04       ` Drew Adams
2010-03-25 16:27       ` Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25 17:51         ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-03-26  7:04           ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-25 23:56         ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26  2:36           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-26  8:28         ` mathias
2010-03-26 17:53           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 20:18             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 21:18               ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 21:30                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:05                   ` Christophe Poncy
2010-03-26 22:07                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:23                       ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:33                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:44                           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:59                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 23:15                               ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:30                       ` Christophe Poncy
2010-03-26 22:13                   ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:32                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 23:11                       ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 23:23                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 23:35                           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-27 22:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-27 23:27                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-27 23:37                       ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-27 23:53                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-28  0:28                           ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-29 23:38                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-30  0:08                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30  1:16                           ` Christoph
2010-03-30  5:31                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-30  6:38                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30  9:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-30 18:17                                 ` Chad Brown
2010-03-30 19:19                           ` Lluís
2010-03-25 20:48 ` d-s-m default: t Noah Friedman

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