From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rolando Pereira Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 21:25:02 +0100 Message-ID: <87mxu0bdy9.fsf@sapo.pt> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278710422 10758 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2010 21:20:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:20:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 09 23:20:20 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXKzb-0002Nw-LQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:20:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53024 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXKzb-0005hn-3N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:20:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44792 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXKzU-0005hg-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:20:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXKzS-0001wW-5z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:46904) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXKzR-0001wL-Qn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:20:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXKzM-0002HZ-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from 139.42.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt ([77.54.42.139]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from finalyugi by 139.42.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:20:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.42.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.93 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8dM12DDI94is9qQSUStTVR2IfBQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126965 Archived-At: Stephen Eilert writes: > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Bernardo Barros > wrote: >> 2010/7/9 Richard Stallman : >>> I saw it once, and it used tabs a lot for switching between >>> different views. We need to be able to do that too. >> >> Hi, Richard. Aquamacs-Emacs implemented tabs too. Just like Firefox >> and Eclipse. >> > > Not exactly. > > I think that Richard is actually refering to "perspectives". A > "perspective" in Eclipse is actually a collection of windows (using > Emacs terminology). For instance, one can have a Java perspective, > with a big editing window in the middle, a class tree on the left, > class symbols on the right and a console on the bottom of the screen. > And then a "Debug perspective", with the stack trace on top left, > variables top right, editing in the center, and whatever else the user > wants to display. > > You can do that in Aquamacs, if you take the time to configure it, > splitting and switching to the desired buffers, for each tab. Just to > lose it when Emacs close (mitigated by desktop-save) or when something > switches one of the buffers you have painstakingly configured. > Couldn't Emacs simulate that using something like escreen[1] or elscreen[2]? Or maybe with the window-configuration-to-register and jump-to-register functions. I'm not sure how those options could be presented the user. Perhaps in a dropdown menu labeled "Perspectives". Although the use of registers would require, I think (since I'm not familiar with the code base), all buffers used on the perspectives to be created at startup, which would probably increase a lot the startup time, especially if there is a great number of perspectives. [1] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsScreen [2] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsLispScreen