From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:22:29 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87mxty6hxm.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <10954D02-E217-49F3-8824-757DA34074AB@gmail.com> <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> <83pqyva8ms.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278804323 11450 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2010 23:25:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Tom , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 11 01:25:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXjQ6-0001hx-F5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:25:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36614 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXjQ5-000480-Jd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:25:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41113 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXjPw-00047u-Du for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:25:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXjPu-00050v-8g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out2.starman.ee ([85.253.0.4]:52165 helo=mx2.starman.ee) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXjPr-0004zp-Td; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:25:04 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx2.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.98.156.cable.starman.ee [82.131.98.156]) by mx2.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324A93F40B3; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:24:59 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:41:25 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127014 Archived-At: > I think it is quite clear from this text that there is no logical > reason any more not to use the common terms copy/cut/paste. While improving terminology, we could also fix a security hole in copy/cut/paste. Several times I accidentally submitted confidential information (like passwords, etc.) because by default copy/cut/paste has a limited scope. In a bare Emacs instance (`emacs -Q'), I select and copy a region, and paste it to a web form inside the web browser. After submitting it, I notice that pasted text is not the same as I copied from Emacs, but some text that I put some time ago to the clipboard from a program other than Emacs. And often it's too late to interrupt the web operation. A fix would be to bind `clipboard-kill-ring-save' to , `clipboard-kill-region' to , `clipboard-yank' to . -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/