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From: Wojciech Meyer <wojciech.meyer@googlemail.com>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: CMake build anyone?
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:34:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mxtd3gpp.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pqy9kedx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:32:58 +0900")

Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>> As I said, I think it's a good idea, but Emacs being what it is, it'll
>> probably only end up doing it many years from now (just like it took
>> ages for Emacs to adopt ANSI C, and to fully make use of autoconf).
>
> That's probably for the better anyway, as there's currently no obvious
> winner among the "new gen build systems," and all have their problems.
> Maybe in a few years, there will be more of a consensus (perhaps someone
> will do what Linus did with git -- get sick of the whole sordid mess,
> and finally do it right).

I think CMake got it `almost right'. The language is a bit obscure but
the idea is right. I am not sure however if in case of projects like
Emacs it is worth, it is not even about creating `not mature enough'
dependency (being dependent on something like Perl for instance is more
reasonable, as it is more mature project), but about what Autoconf
offers in terms of portability. Autoconf & Automake makes so good job on
checking if everything is in place before the actual build happens, that
it might be just sub-optimal vs work that should done to do it properly.
(but that's my private opinion). OTOH project like KDE switched from
autoconf to cmake with a big success, so possibly it could be done. (but
KDE is much bigger project and they'd had scalability problems).

Wojciech

>
> -Miles



  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-27  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-25 17:28 CMake build anyone? Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-25 17:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-25 17:57   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-25 18:21     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-25 19:44       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-25 20:47         ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-25 20:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-25 20:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-25 21:34       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-25 23:04         ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-25 23:44           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-26  0:05             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-26  0:16               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-26  3:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-26  3:42           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-26  9:18             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-07-26  9:54               ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-26 10:11                 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-07-26 10:16                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-26 17:12                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-26 20:19                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-26 20:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-26 21:19                         ` Miles Bader
2010-07-26 21:59                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-26 17:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-26 20:11                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-26 21:33                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-26 22:04                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-26 23:11                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-26 23:32                           ` Miles Bader
2010-07-27  0:34                             ` Wojciech Meyer [this message]
2010-07-27  3:06                             ` Tom Tromey
2010-07-27  3:21                               ` Miles Bader
2010-07-27 15:43                                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-07-27 10:36                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-07-26  4:15           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-26  4:45             ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-07-26 17:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-26 20:02                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-07-26 20:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-07-26 17:01             ` Eli Zaretskii

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