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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
To: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What does Emacs on w32 know that grep can't figure out?
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 17:05:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mxqw4oup.fsf@tux.homenetwork> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=ECpboNxkEscP_cyVi4-V_QZSUAExNrN4ZDuBp@mail.gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sat, 2 Oct 2010 16:51:20 +0200")

Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Thierry Volpiatto
> <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>>>>> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 02:33:32 +0200
>>>>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>>>>
>>>>> So where is the problem? Is utf-16 actually used on w32 in many apps?
>>>>> Or is this a left-over in CCleaner?
>>>>
>>>> UTF-16 is used for all the Unicode APIs on Windows.  That's the
>>>> implementation of the wchar_t type on Windows.  In particular, all the
>>>> file names in the NTFS filesystem are actually stored as UTF-16, and
>>>> all the OS databases in memory are stored in UTF-16 format.
>>>>
>>>> So this is not a left-over, this is what Windows uses internally.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. So then the question is why the grep program does not support
>>> it. Is this a policy question, a lack of resources, or something else?
>>>
>>>
>> It seem most modern windows versions come with powershell.
>> Why windows users don't use it as backend for Emacs instead of using
>> external Gnuwin32 programs?
>
>
> Based on your advice I just took the trouble to install powershell. I
> can not see that it addresses the problem with utf-16, but maybe I am
> missing something. Can you please tell me how to search also utf-16
> files with it?

That's just an idea i sent, i personally don't use (or really few
sometimes on other machines) windows systems and i have just a basic
knowledge of all that is related to it and microsoft in general (e.g Powershell).
So i can't help you much here.
Anyway, Eli seem to have tried it and is not convinced.

-- 
A+ Thierry
Get my Gnupg key:
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 



  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-02 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-30 23:13 What does Emacs on w32 know that grep can't figure out? Lennart Borgman
2010-09-30 23:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-10-01  0:29   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-01  0:37     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-10-01  1:06       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-01  1:20         ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-10-01  1:32           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-01  1:49             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-10-01  2:41             ` PJ Weisberg
2010-10-01  5:43               ` PJ Weisberg
2010-10-01  5:37       ` Jan D.
2010-10-01  7:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01  8:12           ` Andreas Schwab
2010-10-01 12:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01 12:40               ` Andreas Schwab
2010-10-01 17:19               ` Jan Djärv
2010-10-01 22:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-01  7:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01  9:28       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-01 10:35         ` Mathias Dahl
2010-10-01 11:24           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-10-01 11:26           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-01 12:02         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01 15:03           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-01 15:11           ` PJ Weisberg
2010-10-01 22:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-01 23:35       ` Miles Bader
2010-10-02  0:33         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-02  7:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-02 10:12             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-02 10:32               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-10-02 10:50                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-02 12:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-02 14:51                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-02 15:05                   ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2010-10-02 15:23                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-02 15:56                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-02 20:40                         ` Mathias Dahl
2010-10-02 22:20                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-03  0:35                             ` David Robinow
2010-10-03  4:05                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-03  4:29                                 ` David Robinow
2010-10-03  5:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-03  7:25                                     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-10-03  4:10                         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-03 10:39                           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-10-03 13:23                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2010-10-03 19:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-03 22:50                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-05  0:46                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-05  0:51                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-05  0:56                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-10-05  1:36                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-05  1:37                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-05  1:54                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-10-02 11:59               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-02 12:44                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-02 13:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01  7:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01  4:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-10-01  7:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01  7:29   ` Eli Zaretskii

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