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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: binding ibuffer to C-x C-b by default
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:53:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mxqox037.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 877hht4dyt.fsf@telefonica.net

On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:26:18 +0200 Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> wrote: 

ÓF> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

>> Leaving the cursor keys to behave like normal, for instance?  That would
>> be very unsurprising, but the usefulness is debatable.  Sometimes
>> avoiding driving the user crazy is better than maximum usefulness. 

ÓF> Moving the cursor left and right adds zero convenience while using
ÓF> ibuffer, it is wasting two keys. OTOH, by assigning them for jumping
ÓF> from one filtering group to another they become somewhat useful. I agree
ÓF> with you and Miles about the "surprisingness", but after two minutes of
ÓF> using ibuffer you are no longer surprised and later maybe you will
ÓF> appreciate having two extra keys that actually do some work.

ÓF> If you say that it not only is surprising but also annoying, I'll have
ÓF> to ask why you feel compelled to use left/right cursor movements on
ÓF> ibuffer.

The convention is to use TAB and M-TAB to move between groups of items
(which would apply here).

I need to use left/right cursor movement all the time to copy things.
It's really annoying when they are rebound.  w3m-mode does that too IIRC.

Ted




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-08 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-07 15:17 binding ibuffer to C-x C-b by default Dan Nicolaescu
2010-10-07 15:46 ` Drew Adams
2010-10-07 20:54   ` Deniz Dogan
2010-10-08  0:29     ` Miles Bader
2010-10-08  0:34       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-08  0:46         ` Miles Bader
2010-10-08  0:51           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-08  1:32             ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-10-08  1:38               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-08  2:26                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-10-08  2:33                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-08  3:16                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-10-08  6:48                   ` David Kastrup
2010-10-08 13:53                   ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2010-10-08 13:56                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-10-08 14:06                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-08 14:09                       ` Miles Bader
2010-10-08 16:45                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-10-08  1:43               ` Miles Bader
2010-10-08  7:57             ` Sergei Organov
2010-10-08  8:51               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-10-08 11:22                 ` Sergei Organov
2010-10-09  4:02             ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-09 14:51               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-10-09 15:44                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-08  0:57       ` Drew Adams
2010-10-08  1:30         ` Miles Bader
2010-10-08  2:57           ` Drew Adams
2010-10-08  1:03       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-10-08  1:34         ` Miles Bader
2010-10-08  9:12           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-10-09  4:01       ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-07 23:29 ` Juri Linkov
2010-10-08  3:05   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-10-08  9:23 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-10-08 11:26   ` David Kastrup
2010-10-08 11:43     ` Deniz Dogan
2010-10-08 11:51       ` David Kastrup
2010-10-08 12:13         ` Deniz Dogan
2010-10-08 12:19           ` Deniz Dogan
2010-10-08 12:27             ` David Kastrup
2010-10-08 15:17             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-10-08  9:54 ` René Kyllingstad
2010-10-08 16:06   ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-08  4:13 Roland Winkler
2010-10-08  8:27 ` Deniz Dogan

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