From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 23 Mac port Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:11:01 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87mxp98ikq.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <2282B3B4-D844-4E26-BB94-9F79EEA2E847@gmail.com> <4CE058E8.9010606@gmail.com> <87d3q6d305.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289916689 23434 80.91.229.12 (16 Nov 2010 14:11:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:11:29 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 15:11:24 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIMFn-0002uK-6g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:11:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43581 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIMFm-000617-G9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:11:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34599 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIMFe-0005za-Ti for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:11:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIMFd-00055k-GA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:11:14 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:60469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIMFd-00055e-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:11:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIMFc-0002nM-0m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:11:12 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:11:11 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:11:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:C+01YRJZkx2X17y88l71zkx2b6s= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132707 Archived-At: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:25:41 +0900 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:23:54 -0600, Ted Zlatanov said: DC> Thanks for continuing to do this work. I still find the AppKit DC> port to be more reliable and useful than the NS one, and I hope it DC> makes it into mainline one day. >> IIRC the AppKit port depends on the Carbon libraries and so is not a >> good long-term solution. Mitsuharu-san, is that still correct? YM> Not sure about "the Appkit port". It was the term used by the OP. I believe he referred to the Emacs 23 Mac port. YM> If you mean Emacs 22 Carbon+Appkit port, then I maintain this just YM> because I'm using it in our classroom. YM> If you mean Emacs 23 Mac port, see the following message in YM> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-06/msg00148.html So are you saying Carbon *is* a good long-term solution? Or are you saying it's supported right now and that's good enough? Carbon was not supposed to get a 64-bit upgrade when we first discussed your Mac port IIRC; obviously it has one now. I think the Emacs maintainers still prefer the NS port because of the GNUStep support. Ted