From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problems with new smtpmail Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:15:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87mxgrs2bu.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87wrfwrxiu.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87oc17o1ho.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87fwmjnzhi.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309981206 24435 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2011 19:40:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:40:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 21:40:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeXx4-0001Mv-UL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:40:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50784 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeXx3-0004c6-Br for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:40:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54134) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWdQ-0006Om-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:15:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWdK-00039d-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:15:40 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:44958) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWdK-00039B-4M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 14:15:34 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeWdH-0001JF-No for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:15:31 +0200 Original-Received: from 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.59.2.92]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:15:31 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:15:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 50 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 92.red-83-59-2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:oZXgoB6oxMSEZzCBRMsDoylpnIQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141673 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Óscar Fuentes writes: > >> Maybe another good candidate for a NEWS mention. There is no immediate >> relation among gnutls and STARTTLS for me. It is the first time that I >> see gnutls-cli mentioned. It is not in NEWS. > > Ok, but I'm not sure what to say. Maybe listing the requirements for STARTTLS to work? Something like "You need to build Emacs with gnutls support and have gnutls-cli on your PATH". Saying that the gnutls-cli is often contained in the gnutls-bin package on GNU systems would also be nice :-) >> So why is it mentioned in NEWS? > > It's mentioned that it, like `smtpmail-auth-credentials', it no longer > exists. I've now clarified further. Ah, my English parser is buggy. >> That was one half of the problem. My previous setup is now not >> functional because it used variables that are not obeyed by smtpmail as >> it used to (smtpmail-default-smtp-server ignored when in >> custom-set-variables, > > `smtpmail-default-smtp-server' was always ignored if you loaded smtpmail > before setting the variable. Yes, but now it is ignored if listed on custom-set-variables even when smtpmail is loaded later: (custom-set-variables '(smtpmail-default-smtp-server "foo")) (load "smtpmail") fails here (smtpmail asks for a smtp server while sending email). But (custom-set-variables '(smtpmail-smtp-server "foo")) (load "smtpmail") works. [snip]