From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremiah Dodds Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Issues with emacs Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:08:43 -0400 Message-ID: <87mx3pdees.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: <87bokbb4zw.fsf@gnu.org> <83086e1d-d66a-4e0c-95a7-92d10a6de7e7@f8g2000pbf.googlegroups.com> <87r4t3krun.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340741338 13210 80.91.229.3 (26 Jun 2012 20:08:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 26 22:08:57 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sjc4F-0005MV-O9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:08:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56647 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sjc4F-0004Qy-EP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sjc49-0004QX-Nr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sjc47-0002WO-SG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gh0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:60378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sjc47-0002Vr-LG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:08:47 -0400 Original-Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so403338ghr.0 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:08:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=iTWfPteK7WMvgo2Lt5TTIctNNSb0e/G7Uet+0VvNKX0=; b=uRP2FCVN5cNplQPG5BpN5H4iaAgSb5ze+p8zKDiFb+ipaI97G/P8E0JXFiUr4ZwjpF 16dRQhF2YGxDDl0ZFL9LnEttU3cVaaaOgT0kBiBRQqukRIjASjwR2RBHX5GYoB6MMMUv sPkw1Adzhp4t4G9hFaXkBPWBe3dOEwEIqD3LB6BWClUkaBb9qCehxlsKdxlJiRNlIXq7 cTr939JEWoSitdOulDlyhEal1U8qZcdy+7W2wJyNIWggvi+z/Gs78zNO9MH+jY0ns7kR qqSLncEj+qZI345E0qu9p6j2sKEXwWIC2xa3SKtA+QY1sXx7oHvPT/ngVgaOMm/QTAeL BzfA== Original-Received: by 10.236.74.74 with SMTP id w50mr19275974yhd.34.1340741326014; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from friendface (adsl-69-221-146-110.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net. [69.221.146.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c13sm61196245anm.13.2012.06.26.13.08.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:08:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Tom's message of "Tue, 26 Jun 2012 05:50:21 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.169 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85493 Archived-At: Tom writes: > Jeremiah Dodds gmail.com> writes: >> > >> > That's where crowdfunding could help and I don't think the payment >> > necessarily has to match what they earn working on a business software, >> > because if people have a motivation to work on something more >> > interesting then they often willing to accept lower payment >> > if they gain more professional satisfication from working >> > on the more interesting project. >> >> I, for one, would gladly work on emacs full time if I was making enough >> to pay my (frugal) bills from it. >> > > And what's holding you back from giving it a try? The > crowdfunding infrastructure is there (Kickstarter and co.), and > it's well proven for other projects. > > Of course, the crowdfunding model is more suited for contractors who are > used to taking up different projects regularly, so they can easily > choose implementing an Emacs feature as a next project. > > But it's also a possible that a skilled developer could make a > permanent living from developing Emacs features, by starting the > next crowdfunded project immediately when he finished > implementing the previous one. I actually may give it a try in the future, I'm working on launching a kickstarter for a project that I've wanted to complete for a long time, and the idea of crowdfunding specific features for a piece of software and implementing them is a pretty interesting idea. There's a part of me that feels like funding things like "improving emacs" would be better suited to an organization that is capable of commissioning developers and/or paying contributing devs for their work than crowdfunding.