From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: random doesn't feel very random Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:22:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87mx1kdd2i.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <876288yh72.fsf@kanis.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1345789354 30484 80.91.229.3 (24 Aug 2012 06:22:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs devel To: Ivan Kanis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 24 08:22:32 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T4nHs-0002cM-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:22:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4nHq-0006o1-P1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:22:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44649) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4nHn-0006me-K7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:22:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4nHd-00083t-0d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:22:27 -0400 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:34782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T4nHc-00083n-QU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:22:16 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3003D2463; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:22:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z0R6C8XelD7l; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:22:15 +0200 (CEST) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tsdh@gnu.org Original-Received: from thinkpad.tsdh.de (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03171D2462; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:22:14 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Followup-To: Ivan Kanis , emacs devel In-Reply-To: <876288yh72.fsf@kanis.fr> (Ivan Kanis's message of "Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:47:29 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 141.26.64.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152786 Archived-At: Ivan Kanis writes: > Yes I am just talking about "feeling" here. I don't know how to prove > that random does not work. Is it even possible? You can test it at least. Some methods are discussed here. http://www.johndcook.com/Beautiful_Testing_ch10.pdf Bye, Tassilo