From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13141: please review bug #13141 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:19:10 +0900 Message-ID: <87mww45nkh.fsf__42311.8674349554$1358666434$gmane$org@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <415AF94149E240B7BCB28128E45D3135__10998.9037890502$1358637091$gmane$org@us.oracle.com> <87ip6sofn7.fsf@yandex.ru> <20130120085455.93b0f44394a4db0ffcebd5c9@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358666415 23551 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2013 07:20:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13141@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Xue Fuqiao Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 08:20:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TwpCg-00037T-Tw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:20:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33026 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwpCP-0005uh-Re for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:20:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49201) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwpCL-0005u7-Is for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:20:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwpCJ-0006BW-GH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:20:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35530) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwpCJ-0006B1-DS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:20:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwpDC-00081m-Fl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:21:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13141 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 13141-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13141.135866641030792 (code B ref 13141); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13141) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2013 07:20:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40994 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwpCL-00080a-OR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:20:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:39643) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwpCJ-00080S-Ik for 13141@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:20:08 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688489708DE; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:19:10 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3317F1A3537; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:19:10 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <20130120085455.93b0f44394a4db0ffcebd5c9@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta32) "habanero" b0d40183ac79 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70082 Archived-At: Xue Fuqiao writes: > But *extensible and customizable* (and self-documenting) are the core > of Emacs. Experienced users *know* that what information should be go > to the Emacs developers. Experienced developers know that what experienced users "know" often enough just ain't so. The only case where users are in a good position to decide is about privacy-sensitive information that might be in traces or keystroke logs, etc.