From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RTF for emacs Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 19:07:44 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87mwe79kbj.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87fvk012fi.fsf@debian.uxu> <8761kw58n4.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400951429 18930 80.91.229.3 (24 May 2014 17:10:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 17:10:29 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 24 19:10:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WoFSd-0002Xf-Pk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 19:10:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48810 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoFSc-0005pR-Ob for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 13:10:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 49 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: u+UUXbnu1hlDFr5pMibebQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:9LA6gqg0m31BCPsbsA73X3B3dMk= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205551 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97821 Archived-At: Glyn Millington writes: > If you are capable of helping to add RTF editing to > emacs then you are surely capable of handling LaTeX Definitely! And it is a better project which also involves a community. If you can't stand Star/Libre/Open Office and the like word processors, why try making Emacs into one? > However I'm not clear from your post how deeply you > are into the Emacs world. Do you, for example, know > about Auctex, the LaTeX-writing mode for Emacs? And latex-mode. > My own experience is that learning Emacs and LaTeX is > a life-work in itself, on top of the need to actually > make a living, raise kids etc etc! T.E.A., the > Tweaking Emacs Addiction, has been the ruin of many. Yes! On the other hand it is pleasant, relaxing, you learn stuff, and all the improvements you make, you immediately can use and benefit from (even derive pleasure and pride). Compare this to all the morons who who spend years on the grandiose MMORPG or would-be-Quake-killer, projects that will never complete and from whose activity it is very difficult to flow anything sensible (and generalizable) to the outside world. Emacs hacking is an OCB trap but it is possible to get out on the other side and have a system you really, really enjoy (and have mastered, not the least through the tweak process itself) - but sure, if you don't get out and is stuck starving in the buffer in-between, then it sucks. > The answer is to create templates, especially for > LaTeX - then just insert as needed ... Seems like > re-inventing the wheel! The time might be better > invested in getting a grip on LaTeX. Absolutely right! Why don't you write here more often, Mr. Millington? :) -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573