From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:31:16 +0000 Message-ID: <87mw7xkgnv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bnoeed7v.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87389qe92k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87389pvre5.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415712708 31934 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2014 13:31:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 11 14:31:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XoBXq-00021E-M4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:31:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48822 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoBXq-0005Qx-9l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:31:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43925) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoBXY-0005QX-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:31:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoBXS-00067n-UC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:31:24 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:55466 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoBXS-00067K-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 08:31:18 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1B540AC0498; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 14:49:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DC856BA00; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:31:16 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <87389pvre5.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:44:02 +0000") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176749 Archived-At: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > At the moment, I have not tried elpakit. Sorry, Nic, I probably will > give it a go now. Well, you don't need to. And I'm in the middle of moving it to a version 2.0. > I think that any of the solutions would work. What is interesting is > that both Elpakit and Cask have additional stuff added. I've been > really glad to get Cask working and have it running my test cases for > me, outside of my daily emacs. But it's not strictly necessary for > persistantly managing packages. The point about these things is that they're the only way you've got of testing really. There's an enormous amount of grunt work in testing stuff: - make your package - start up a test emacs - install your package - run the tests - see the results that's horrid boring work that both cask and elpakit try and automate. For me it's not the out-of-bandness so much... though repeatability clearly guarantees that. Nic