From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dpittman@fb.com
Subject: Re: Environment variables for remote processes
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:14:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mw7oe2y3.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh9xxnto9.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:15:52 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>> The problem is, that not all settings of process-environment might be
>> desired on remote hosts. process-environment keeps *local* variables.
>
> I'm not so sure. We're talking here about the settings which are in
> process-environment but not in (default-toplevel-value
> 'process-environment), so these are all settings added via let-binding
> process-environment, and in all the cases I can think of, these seem to
> be either useful or harmless to propagate.
That sounds terrible: two classes of citizens in
process-environment. Some of them being there before Tramp connection
happened, and some of them added later, via let-bind or permanently.
How do you want to explain the difference to a user? It would make a
difference, whether an entry has been added to process-environment
before a Tramp connection, or afterwards.
And how would you deal with deleted entries of process-environment?
Something like
(let ((process-environment process-environment))
(setenv "DISPLAY")
(process-file ...))
>> Furthermore, some remote settings might be requested which are not in
>> process-environment by default.
>
> Not sure what you're referring to here, but it seems like a different
> issue than the one at hand (which is to propagate let-bound
> process-environment values).
I'm speaking about tramp-remote-process-environment, which uses another
mechanism. But if we have an accepted mechanism for environment
variables on remote hosts, there shall be only The One Way to set them.
> Stefan
Best regards, Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-18 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-03 21:47 bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) Daniel Pittman
[not found] ` <handler.18940.B.141505143415260.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2014-11-03 22:13 ` bug#18940: Acknowledgement (24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) ) Daniel Pittman
2014-11-09 10:24 ` bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) Michael Albinus
2014-11-13 15:36 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-13 18:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13 21:37 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-14 1:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-16 10:55 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-16 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 18:38 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-16 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 18:48 ` Environment variables for remote processes (was: bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)) Michael Albinus
2014-11-18 2:15 ` Environment variables for remote processes Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 19:14 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2014-11-18 21:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 21:45 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19 3:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 15:12 ` andres.ramirez
2014-11-23 10:22 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19 18:18 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19 18:31 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-20 4:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 15:52 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-21 2:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-22 11:43 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-22 16:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-22 16:49 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-15 2:24 ` bug#18940: Enabling hg extensions Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-11-15 16:00 ` Michael Albinus
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