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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dpittman@fb.com
Subject: Re: Environment variables for remote processes
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:14:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mw7oe2y3.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh9xxnto9.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:15:52 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

>> The problem is, that not all settings of process-environment might be
>> desired on remote hosts. process-environment keeps *local* variables.
>
> I'm not so sure.  We're talking here about the settings which are in 
> process-environment but not in (default-toplevel-value
> 'process-environment), so these are all settings added via let-binding
> process-environment, and in all the cases I can think of, these seem to
> be either useful or harmless to propagate.

That sounds terrible: two classes of citizens in
process-environment. Some of them being there before Tramp connection
happened, and some of them added later, via let-bind or permanently.

How do you want to explain the difference to a user? It would make a
difference, whether an entry has been added to process-environment
before a Tramp connection, or afterwards.

And how would you deal with deleted entries of process-environment?
Something like

(let ((process-environment process-environment))
  (setenv "DISPLAY")
  (process-file ...))
  
>> Furthermore, some remote settings might be requested which are not in
>> process-environment by default.
>
> Not sure what you're referring to here, but it seems like a different
> issue than the one at hand (which is to propagate let-bound
> process-environment values).

I'm speaking about tramp-remote-process-environment, which uses another
mechanism. But if we have an accepted mechanism for environment
variables on remote hosts, there shall be only The One Way to set them.

>         Stefan

Best regards, Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-03 21:47 bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) Daniel Pittman
     [not found] ` <handler.18940.B.141505143415260.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2014-11-03 22:13   ` bug#18940: Acknowledgement (24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) ) Daniel Pittman
2014-11-09 10:24 ` bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp) Michael Albinus
2014-11-13 15:36   ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-13 18:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-13 21:37       ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-14  1:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-16 10:55           ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-16 15:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 18:38               ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-16 21:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 18:48                 ` Environment variables for remote processes (was: bug#18940: 24.4; vc-hg does not disable pager, leading to hangs (at least with tramp)) Michael Albinus
2014-11-18  2:15                   ` Environment variables for remote processes Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 19:14                     ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2014-11-18 21:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 21:45                         ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19  3:16                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 15:12                             ` andres.ramirez
2014-11-23 10:22                               ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19 18:18                             ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-19 18:31                               ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-20  4:29                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 15:52                                 ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-21  2:46                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-22 11:43                                     ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-22 16:33                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-22 16:49                                         ` Michael Albinus
2014-11-15  2:24 ` bug#18940: Enabling hg extensions Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-11-15 16:00   ` Michael Albinus

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