From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] [OT] New Android app (Orgzly)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 23:46:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mw5abfhg.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87a91aiie1.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl
Hi,
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
> Now Rasmus comes and says:
>
>> I must admit that I feel uncomfortable because you use the name
>> org-mode to promote a product that does not respect the "4 freedoms"
>> as put forth by the FSF. E.g. if you make mistakes, it may reflect
>> poorly on us, and we won't even be able to fix it or distribute
>> a version that is not broken if we so desired. That's just /my/
>> personal opinion, though.
>
> which is a very well-thought, delicate way of saying that he doesn't
> like the situation.
> (Personally, I do not 100% agree with Rasmus' opinion, but I can see the
> rationale behind it.)
Fine with me!
Neven, whom I have exchange a couple of private emails with, is free to
distribute his software as he see fit. What I explicitly quoted as being
uncomfortable was the association between his product with *org-mode*.
Note, the tag-line on Neven's site was something like "org-mode for
Android" up until this discussion.
I'm sure everybody is excited that his program is working with the *org
format*!
> Then others come and say some, ekhm, not-extremely-nice things to
> someone who was definitely not trolling or anything like this.
We should strive to keep the org-list friendly and civilized.
> Let us further assume that he will sell his book in bookstores (it might
> be in ebook form, with or without DRM, or in paper form - never mind, I
> do not know the exact details). Would he be prohibited from mentioning
> his project (which clearly involves a non-free piece of *software*,
> i.e., the LaTeX source file, and promotes the *result* of executing this
> piece of code) on Emacs mailing list? I am very interested in a serious
> answer, and (if it happens to be "no") in explanation how and why the
> situation would be different.
First, I don't have strong opinions on this. However, as I recall there's
a passage on articles vs software in Free as in Freedom 2.0:
http://shop.fsf.org/product/free-as-in-freedom-2/
Second, there's /nothing/ wrong with charging for e.g. binaries. A few
Android programs that I use come to mind: Conversations, DAVDroid, OSMAnd,
OwnCloud News (correct me if I'm wrong on any of these; I don't have
iGoogles).
—Rasmus
--
Together we will make the possible totalllly impossible!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-22 22:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-22 11:33 [ANN] [OT] New Android app (Orgzly) Neven
2015-01-22 15:58 ` Xebar Saram
2015-01-22 16:02 ` Rasmus
2015-01-22 20:00 ` Neven
2015-01-22 21:05 ` Melleus
2015-01-22 21:20 ` Neven
2015-01-23 8:47 ` e.fraga
2015-01-22 16:41 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2015-01-22 16:57 ` Scott Randby
2015-01-22 22:02 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-22 22:46 ` Rasmus [this message]
2015-01-24 0:05 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-23 4:13 ` Scott Randby
2015-01-23 8:53 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-01-23 13:31 ` Scott Randby
2015-01-23 23:57 ` John Hendy
2015-01-23 19:18 ` Greg Troxel
2015-01-23 19:21 ` Greg Troxel
2015-01-23 23:57 ` Discussion of non-free-as-defined-by-FSF software (was: [ANN] [OT] New Android app (Orgzly)) Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-23 9:56 ` [ANN] [OT] New Android app (Orgzly) Karl Voit
2015-01-24 0:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-22 21:23 ` Subhan Michael Tindall
2015-01-23 2:59 ` Mike McLean
2015-01-24 0:15 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-01-23 4:34 ` Samuel Wales
2016-10-20 19:28 ` Thomas Koch
2016-10-22 2:46 ` Stefan Huchler
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