From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:49:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423227063 4843 80.91.229.3 (6 Feb 2015 12:51:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Andrew L. Moore" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 06 13:50:58 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YJiN6-0006KM-DS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 13:50:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47982 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJiN5-0005If-W2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 07:50:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44889) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJiMb-0005IY-G7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 07:50:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJiMX-0002UA-GF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 07:50:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44840) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJiMX-0002U4-Ce for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 07:50:21 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52013 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YJiMQ-000343-5G; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 07:50:14 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C0DC5E068B; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 13:49:56 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 06 Feb 2015 07:41:02 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182520 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > The LLVM source repository includes a patch adding basic lldb > > support to gud.el. > > It looks like there is a systematic effort to attack GNU packages. I cannot see the support of gud.el from LLVM as part of a systematic effort to attack GNU packages. > The GNU Project needs to respond strategically, which means not by > having each GNU package cooperate with each attack. For now, please > do NOT install this change. I cannot see how it differs from us supporting MS Windows and MacOSX in Emacs. The metric we employed here was not to install support for any functionality restricted to the use of those operating systems. But "basic lldb support to gud.el", our generic debugger interface, does not sound anything like that. > I will talk with Moore about this, off the list, to find out more > about the situation. Sure, it makes sense to figure out whether the summary is accurate. If it is, however, I do not find my initial assessment in agreement with yours. -- David Kastrup