From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:53:27 +0100 Message-ID: <87mw4qvsy0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423310018 8144 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2015 11:53:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 11:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Helmut Eller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 07 12:53:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3xB-0007Wq-41 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:53:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3x9-0001rz-Uc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:53:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51580) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3x6-0001ro-F5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:53:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3x3-0002zN-F9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:53:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38763) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3x3-0002zJ-Bu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:53:29 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45938 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3x2-0000na-IF; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:53:28 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D39ABE0A88; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 12:53:27 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Helmut Eller's message of "Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:42:18 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182586 Archived-At: Helmut Eller writes: > On Sat, Feb 07 2015, David Kastrup wrote: > >> If you want to argue evolutionary biology, it makes no sense to muddle >> together all niches. Humans don't need to compete with polar bears and >> penguins. > > GCC and LLVM are obviously competitors. > >> The GPL and the GNU project is the stronghold of software freedom. But >> we are not going to do software freedom a favor by raiding and burning >> down ourselves every fair happening outside of the protection of our >> castle walls. Our concern has to be to keep the state inside of the >> castle walls both secure and welcoming. > > Inviting trojan horses into the GNU castle is probably not going to > help GCC. We are not talking about letting the enemies of free software in but rather those who don't shoot the enemies at sight. > Well, maybe in some indirect way because then GCC has to improve to > stay competitive. Improving GCC is a worthwhile goal anyway. Making it worse in the hope that it will make other people suffer more than us is a suicidal strategy in the long run. -- David Kastrup