From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: hooks, again Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 02:05:56 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87mw1i1sez.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87twvzx252.fsf@debian.uxu> <55426DFE.2050600@nihilo.net> <87y4l9p04r.fsf@debian.uxu> <871tj1gdep.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87fv7bkca3.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> <87d22f55x6.fsf_-_@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430870732 22415 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2015 00:05:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 00:05:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 06 02:05:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypmpy-0007DC-17 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 02:05:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42335 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypmpx-0003zY-5v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 20:05:17 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:dXRUZTbALAHixAX3gq7qp6obnCE= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211945 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104229 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> a higher degree of clarity and control because you >> know from your config files explicitly what is >> at work. > > No, you think you do, but you just miss some other > clarity and control, which is that you have no idea > what you've overwritten. Nothing says just because you set the hook that way you cannot before you do that examine what is in the hook and function by function find out what they are and if you like them to be there. Usually there isn't much so it isn't a lot work either, and besides it is a limited but nonetheless good way to examine the system. > You just bullied yourself onto this poor hook, > breaking any other package that was using it. Again, what's stopping me adding those functions as well (with setq), if I like them? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573