From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich =?utf-8?Q?Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1?= =?utf-8?Q?=2FKammer?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In support of guile-emacs Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:49:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87mvveljv2.fsf@T420.taylan> References: <87fv17kgno.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20151019102414.GA2438@acm.fritz.box> <5624FADF.9070908@dancol.org> <20151019143527.GG2438@acm.fritz.box> <87eggqn6eo.fsf@T420.taylan> <20151019171909.GH2438@acm.fritz.box> <87wpuilml3.fsf@T420.taylan> <56253E87.7060604@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445284166 4354 80.91.229.3 (19 Oct 2015 19:49:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Xue Fuqiao , bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel , Christopher Allan Webber , Alan Mackenzie , Daniel Colascione To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 21:49:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoGQm-0004iT-Sc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:49:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41849 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoGQl-0000nI-1e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:49:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50867) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoGQh-0000nC-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoGQg-0005e8-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::230]:35548) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoGQg-0005dx-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: by qkbl190 with SMTP id l190so28517567qkb.2 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:49:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TwVedF/YKZV03mrVfIe2vI4DhWtnLajqjZXG9mqCNu0=; b=X1l0Ne5XnLfxLwxJvznk0wxh6Msk+XcrnidDI4XfEEDCs64SO4XpjimcEXmM/U7DKW N91uKUF4obAgEeS/gTsQmgwZglpK9WReHJ52wahTkwP+kdggVrZh4ybIS5kv6OXQ7/U+ WAfB3RjfOqwx7jE5bBgHOlbvxBoC9KF13njRcKD5fHjgGSTAtaUGvLm1v0IKaOR9TZXh Dd3fkMGMqEzshWU6tPGvoHxe1kW3WEnFpsVbowhjcsl3CjDNnw2a+FQisZTZfZ4zD0SL 1Lr7tGWG1dzKEQaKOss30ixqyXAoNkPB6Ud/WHiRpLnysMgS9fkmOZuz55qKoFM6nC+H 79Zg== X-Received: by 10.194.184.73 with SMTP id es9mr40642862wjc.122.1445284149840; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from T420.taylan ([2a02:908:c32:4740:221:ccff:fe66:68f0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y17sm2498728wib.15.2015.10.19.12.49.08 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:49:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <56253E87.7060604@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:03:35 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192130 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 10/19/2015 09:50 PM, Taylan Ulrich Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kammer wrote: > >> I don't know what good benchmarks might be that are both realistic >> and show the benefits of Guile's added optimization passes and such. > > I could suggest a couple real benchmarks (time to parse jquery.js with > js2-mode, or decode, or encode a large JSON document with json.el), > but all these operate with strings a lot. IIUC, that's still a WIP > area, so the results might not highlight Guile's benefits > appropriately. Well, GuileEmacs isn't ready for benchmarks at all yet. I rather had Emacs-Elisp vs. Guile-Scheme benchmarks in mind, but sure, Emacs-Elisp vs. Guile-Elisp is the real question. Maybe it's best to wait a bit longer so we can do really real benchmarks on js2-mode, ansi-term, IDO, and what have you. (IDO on directories with very many files is one of the few real-life cases of Elisp slowness I hit.) Taylan