From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: lax matching is not a great default behavior Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 00:09:11 +0000 Message-ID: <87mvtrt6qg.fsf@gmail.com> References: <837fl2qzs2.fsf@gnu.org> <83610ikvto.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449187788 7808 80.91.229.3 (4 Dec 2015 00:09:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 00:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , Per =?utf-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck?= , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 04 01:09:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a4dwP-0002R9-06 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 01:09:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38050 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4dwO-0002IS-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 19:09:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4dwB-0002I8-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 19:09:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4dw7-0003Dz-8U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 19:09:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]:33864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4dw7-0003Dv-07; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 19:09:19 -0500 Original-Received: by wmvv187 with SMTP id v187so51751652wmv.1; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:09:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4APL0e66DIoSzn7oOt7zJ/6sUJlP8pgfuIsTTLzifRI=; b=lDzGcjepJkV2myLeP/5h7x4AeTTegVhQQfn9Cf0HCV5bEmRyOWvU/h8qR3iFrPc1M1 R+76zuqYzyy8aitDucuQ9FW00etk/wWXLs7GRAP0bAzUrmr4wcNmlI39w7LMZQELRSo9 iZ7GjUiJPdv31qyj/fDvFbjImGx0ExN0LbXI6eIcxXljFV9lcUuU8E2zIB3IPsxSHKMJ lioO2muDNZ80e5tx5I+mv3qZmnguTuHlewsEPeJw68Rjn9U/P40iXNOo6QOZr46FS3ng CFDEQ3LYFv15o8KwxDNlaXDq1Yccp8HShuOmdMenjgPQs5M+0l7SYvgZImB4ihWXFhU+ Y0fg== X-Received: by 10.194.205.103 with SMTP id lf7mr13789626wjc.147.1449187758113; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:09:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Gandalf-Linux.gmail.com (host-78-151-181-156.as13285.net. [78.151.181.156]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u4sm9704624wjz.4.2015.12.03.16.09.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Dec 2015 16:09:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 3 Dec 2015 15:00:14 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195843 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> > If we are afraid users will hate this default, we can turn it off in >> > v25.1 and consider making it the default later. >> >> I think it's often best to make something just available first to get >> more feedback on it before it's made the default... >>=20 > 100% agreed. I don't mind leaving this OFF by default in Emacs 25. So long as the eventual goal is to have it ON by default (preferably in 26). Per Starb=C3=A4ck writes: >> That would be good, together with introducing an entry for it in the >> Options menu directly below (or above?) "Ignore case for search". This >> deserves to be as visible as that option. Should it be "Ignore accents >> for search"? Feel free to bring this up on a separate topic, Per. A more user-friendly name for this feature is something that's been brought up before and we're not going to reach anything as a side-note in the current thread.