From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Visit New File menu item Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:16:05 +0000 Message-ID: <87mvq4u0d6.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87oaaldk94.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87r3fhoslg.fsf@fastmail.fm> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457734605 25947 80.91.229.3 (11 Mar 2016 22:16:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 11 23:16:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aeVM9-0005Uy-41 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:16:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57940 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aeVM8-0003QW-Jh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:16:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48613) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aeVLv-0003QQ-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:16:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aeVLs-0001aI-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:16:11 -0500 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:53021) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aeVLr-0001aA-Ow for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 17:16:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=0IA07dRrfDpZil9DjaTYdBXWjX/a34qWFejAtFjOFlo=; b=GBWgRwWrqHe21yJ1gjNK3kZvXB jBIWe2kvtNP1j36gRdyrq532VwjjS57QABtzkB5BgAOpAWFGB7GMGdijaTgdYK3IKhNsw1Ax42xfN joHoLjT4AWAi2s5edNRS/2TroCNeQApUV4f2bbF/9DlCUqCN1ep0SmK28eCRbnq1bHeIdJUnWDU/i ehalnDwH1MJRVFxJcSs8tL9bONpyxIZqFdzV0euORCW+u9s/1uIdXNYk1UONmT/qPeZ5DlW+egWQf /yw2kJJBym2AekkgpCZMhrdPuW0HZhiC1cTE+q/Nykg+PZJcCAH56ePymek3XpBmOR4GbPOMSfm2d Uda8jzng==; Original-Received: from cpc1-benw10-2-0-cust373.gate.cable.virginm.net ([77.98.219.118]:59791 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1aeVLq-001brL-Vh; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:16:07 +0000 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:30:26 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 31.216.48.48 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201498 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> Joost Kremers writes: > >> Wouldn't "Create New File" make more sense? Or simply "New File"? > > I agree, "Visit New File" is somewhat bizarre, and I'm not even entirely sure > what it should mean. "Create New File" is obvious. I think I agree with Joost. "New File" is short and to the point. I've checked some other editors, and "New" is the most common. But, for Emacs, this is somewhat confused by the presence of "New Window" and "New Frame" (er, in the "File" menu...), so something else is needed. But less is better, I think. Phil