From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 07:52:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87mv7bg98k.fsf@yandex.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502088784 19631 195.159.176.226 (7 Aug 2017 06:53:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 06:53:04 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: , pythonnut@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Radon Rosborough Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 07 08:52:57 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1debuI-0004jd-RY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 08:52:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35677 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1debuP-0006EN-41 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 02:53:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33155) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1debuF-0006E2-Vn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 02:52:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1debuC-0004C6-Sy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 02:52:52 -0400 Original-Received: from forward100o.mail.yandex.net ([37.140.190.180]:48702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1debuC-0004Bu-IK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 02:52:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mxback16j.mail.yandex.net (mxback16j.mail.yandex.net [5.45.198.92]) by forward100o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 637E72A210B3; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 09:52:46 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from mxback16j.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mxback16j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 29F0D3682C1D; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 09:52:46 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (smtp3o.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::27]) by mxback16j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id YrNlDR5yg0-qjYeQ0Bt; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 09:52:45 +0300 Original-Received: by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id ez3W2b8UWV-qiP0cH0C; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 09:52:45 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1502088765; bh=BVActMYbQcado+w47h31+W1RtgcExTZpc3n1DK7hnYQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID; b=huT2MkQQpBzPQY2tjCBbjTR5T00qbwj24PR2Nw9k2c+EbljkIRwAvMh4jROV/5Bbb 44L468ln1lw7xS4cFl/1EkfbgJ6FdrJBoU7ogLl9db892wIACuaYNafRGBuOIFjoww gQ4UTZOIhUdvmCr6NtE0dkyMgS1t7CmGexEyHiOA= Authentication-Results: smtp3o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0 X-Face: -P+89ASh_wrs;AUGm`!l[}/o-lyK}5W.gq\fkJ{#d6Gu,hWrZNz::iMm5PJb} __A96]-LUrl)X=uF=V|\3-\9/sXvBs/H In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Sun, 6 Aug 2017 17:37:55 -0700") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACwAAAAMCAIAAACWSshgAAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAA nklEQVQ4je2UsQ7CMAxEH8gVNOXP+F7m/hQDadyYBbbLUllM3HiSL0/2Kad15XxG6Ml0V/5RtQfc hN87VgpmaigyCYDLoiHcsXlmmtTQngxBgSLs1pCX+LWsNUJufst+atOZ7pj7YGbkH5brTHcsYrCJ 7GISOjMCK2VQzJ4NscAi7H8xv/oUU0O0bIimM/cdq3XwbVeuqQyvCqp8vfMGDDxBfU8Ud+cAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 37.140.190.180 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217355 Archived-At: Dear Radon, I would like to thank you for your extensive post. I found it very useful and informative. This was not your motivation, I know, but it went some way to confirm my own prejudice against using package manager. I prefer to install external packages 'by hand'. Best wishes, Colin. -- -- Colin Baxter m43cap@yandex.com GnuPG fingerprint: 68A8 799C 0230 16E7 BF68 2A27 BBFA 2492 91F5 41C8