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[124.189.167.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g25sm332782pfg.166.2017.09.27.18.48.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:48:36 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218839 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > If you want to argue based on the premise that side effects are > bad, > please take it elsewhere. The GNU Project does not accept that > premise. Okay, i respect that position. > Anyway, we do not want to rewrite GNU Emacs in another language. i'm certainly not arguing for that! Indeed, i've made several posts to Reddit criticising that idea on various grounds, even going so far as to write a satirical post about the notion of rewriting Emacs in JavaScript. i only mentioned Haskell in response to (what seemed to me to be) the implication that discouraging global mutable state makes it inherently impractical to deal with concepts such as buffers. At any rate, i'll not comment any further on this issue here. Alexis.