From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30215: Visiting files from zip archives should not modify directory time Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 23:16:20 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87mv0z0zq3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87mv157e8f.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83h8rco7cg.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvvc8ds1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zi53m6za.fsf@gnu.org> <87efmfuegl.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83o9limx84.fsf@gnu.org> <87mv114nwp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <834ln9m4or.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517089522 1492 195.159.176.226 (27 Jan 2018 21:45:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:45:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 30215@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 27 22:45:18 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efYHl-0008Us-JZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 22:45:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46609 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efYJm-00012B-6b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:47:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41914) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efYJX-00011N-QO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:47:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efYJT-0000zj-RY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:47:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efYJT-0000zc-Mv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:47:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efYJT-00015R-FW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:47:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:47:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 30215 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 30215-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B30215.15170896014108 (code B ref 30215); Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:47:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 30215) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2018 21:46:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efYJ5-00014A-KQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:46:40 -0500 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:43189 helo=homiemail-a18.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1efYJ4-000143-4H for 30215@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:46:38 -0500 Original-Received: from homiemail-a18.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a18.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150E9258067; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:46:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (m91-129-109-224.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.109.224]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a18.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33E9D258066; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:46:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <834ln9m4or.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 26 Jan 2018 09:59:00 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:142595 Archived-At: >> Creation of a backup file is not a problem, because backups are created >> on saving. > > What about auto-saving in general, and the new auto-save-visited-mode > in particular? The default value of `auto-save-visited-interval' is 5 seconds, but the time of extracting a file from the archive is measured in microseconds. BTW, while looking at `auto-save-visited-mode', I noticed that the docstring of `save-some-buffers' could be improved: diff --git a/lisp/files.el b/lisp/files.el index 00622cf..98ad209 100644 --- a/lisp/files.el +++ b/lisp/files.el @@ -5220,7 +5220,7 @@ save-some-buffers This command first saves any buffers where `buffer-save-without-query' is non-nil, without asking. -Optional argument (the prefix) non-nil means save all with no questions. +Optional ARG (the prefix) non-nil means save all with no questions. Optional second argument PRED determines which buffers are considered: If PRED is nil, all the file-visiting buffers are considered. If PRED is t, then certain non-file buffers will also be considered.