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I've noticed that when I try to open a remote file via ssh with tramp and ido-find-file, ido mode doesn't seem to know that I want to use tramp, and instead tries to create a local file. This bug describes two problems: 1) Default Emacs Tramp and Ido mode have non-intuitive ways of searching for a remote file. M-x ido-find-file "Find File: ~//ssh:joshua@localhost#2222" TAB does not prompt me for a password. Instead I just see "[No Match]". 2) Default Emacs Tramp and Ido mode have non-intuitive ways of opening remote files. M-x ido-find-file "Find File: ~//ssh:joshua@localhost#2222:/home/joshua/hello" Sometimes opens a local file instead of opening a remote file. I can't reliably reproduce this behavior though. 3) Ido grays out the initial "~/" if one starts to type out tramp syntax, but un-greys out those characters when it shouldn't. Type the following in ido-find-file "Find File: ~//ssh:joshua@localhost#2222" "~/" is greyed out. Type a : to specify a path and watch the "~/" get un-greyed out. You can probably stop reading this bug report now. The following is just a ramble of how I discovered these problems: I have a virtual machine running at localhost port 2222. I'm not sure where the remote file is, but that's ok, emacs can open remote directories with dired! I'll just browse the remote directory! M-x ido-find-file "Find File: ~//ssh:joshua@localhost#2222" TAB The Initial characters "~/" are greyed out. So Emacs is recognizing that I want to browse a remote file. Cool. I'm expecting that Emacs will prompt me for a password, and then offer me suggestions of remote directories at the remote HOME directory. This doesn't happen. Instead I see this error: [No match] No problem I'll try again. C-g C-g I try a couple of times I get can't get in. I receive a couple of connection refused errors. Ok this is silly. I decide to connect in via a terminal. "ssh ssh://joshua@localhost:2222". This works. So now I'm trying to figure out what Tramp is doing wrong... The input lines initially shows "Find File: ~/" So I start typing via "/" Now I see "Find file: ~//" AND the "~/" characters are grayed out. So far so good. Then I type in the rest until Emacs shows this: "Find File: ~//ssh:joshua@localhost#2222" Again, the "~/" is greyed out, but when I typed a ":" to specify a path to file the "~/" is not greyed out anymore and emacs thinks I'm trying to open a local file. If I keep typing, I'll get this: "Find File: ~//ssh:joshua@localhost#2222:/home/joshua/hello" pressing RET, makes Emacs open a local file. Not what I intended. This happened a few times, but when I tried to reproduce this behavior, Emacs opened the remote file. If I can reproduce this behavior again, I'll try to. So I tried again, "Find File: ~//ssh:joshua@localhost#2222" RET The "~/" is greyed out. So tramp will open the remote file right? Wrong. Instead I get this error: "File not found and directory write protected." I understand, I did not specify a path for tramp, but can't ido tell tramp that to look into the remote HOME by default? Thanks for listening In GNU Emacs 26.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30) of 2018-07-05 built on juergen Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12001000 Recent messages: Opening connection to imap.fastmail.com...done nnimap read 0k from imap.fastmail.com Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done nnimap read 0k from imap.fastmail.com Mark all unread articles as read? 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