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From: "Garreau\, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
To: Jean-Christophe Helary <brandelune@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 03:47:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87muqydbxj.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <668D7901-5829-436B-ABE5-4FEE09D73136@gmail.com> (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:16:00 +0900")

On 2018-10-28 at 10:16, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:27, Garreau, Alexandre <galex-713@galex-713.eu> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2018-10-27 at 09:54, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>>> Gene,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for this remark. I totally agree with you. elisp should be
>>> considered a domain specific language and not be compared to general
>>> purpose languages in general.
>> 
>> emacs lisp *can* and *is* used as a general purpose language.
>
> If you consider Emacs as a virtual lisp machine, yes. If you consider
> Emacs as a text editor, much less so.
>
> Teaching elisp as strictly a lisp dialect, removes it from its utility
> as being Emacs extension language.

I don’t consider emacs as a text editor but rather a shell, a UI, a
environment, system.  And emacs-lisp is the main (currently only)
language to program using this amazing UI, system, environment, shell,
etc..

Just as if you take lisp machine lisp, and remove the lisp machine, the
kernel, all I/O, etc. you removes its utility as lisp machine extension
language.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-28  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-24 15:23 Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-24 16:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-24 22:24   ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-24 23:30     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-25  3:31       ` Van L
2018-10-25 19:01     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-26 11:43       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-26 13:53         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-26 15:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-27 10:50           ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-11-14 23:27     ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15  3:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-15  4:47         ` Drew Adams
2018-11-15  8:04         ` tomas
2018-11-15 20:01         ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]     ` <mailman.4061.1542238084.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-17 15:41       ` Gene
2018-11-17 17:39         ` Java-mode Debug question ? Francis Belliveau
2018-11-17 17:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-11-18 12:34             ` Francis Belliveau
2018-11-18 15:32               ` Francis Belliveau
2018-11-27  1:06             ` Problem with CC mode hooks and font-locking Francis Belliveau
2018-11-27  2:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-11-30 21:50                 ` Francis Belliveau
2018-12-01  7:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-01 14:33                     ` Francis Belliveau
2019-02-22  4:14         ` Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Van L
     [not found] ` <mailman.2668.1540396976.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-26 18:05   ` Gene
2018-10-27  0:54     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-27 17:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28  0:27       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28  1:16         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-28  2:47           ` Garreau, Alexandre [this message]
2018-10-28  7:04             ` Alan E. Davis
2018-10-28  7:28               ` Van L
2018-10-28 17:07               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2937.1540710329.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-28 17:03               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28 17:14                 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-30 19:30               ` Gene
2018-10-30 19:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-30 20:33                   ` Nick Dokos
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.3129.1540931601.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 11:20                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.3123.1540928817.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 20:28                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-30 20:32                     ` Drew Adams
2018-10-31  2:14                     ` Gmane Autoauthorizer (was: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?) Nuno Silva
2018-10-31 11:23                       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-02  1:33                         ` Gmane Autoauthorizer Nuno Silva
2018-11-02  8:38                           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-03 12:41                             ` Nuno Silva
2018-11-03 15:24                               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-04 21:25                                 ` Nuno Silva
2018-11-05 20:51                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-01 13:02                       ` Gmane Autoauthorizer (was: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ?) Emanuel Berg
2018-11-01 13:07                         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-02  1:23                           ` Gmane Autoauthorizer Nuno Silva
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.3128.1540931562.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 11:19                       ` Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Emanuel Berg
2018-10-31 14:22                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.3163.1540995758.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-31 16:01                           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-11-09  9:16                             ` Van L
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.3710.1541755025.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-10 17:02                               ` Gene
2018-11-04 12:17                         ` Daniel Nemenyi
     [not found]         ` <mailman.2929.1540689371.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-28  2:11           ` Gene
2018-10-28  2:21             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2933.1540693317.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 17:35               ` Gene
2018-10-27 18:40     ` Gene
2018-10-27 19:27       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-10-28  0:52       ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-28  1:11       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-10-28  0:19     ` Garreau, Alexandre
     [not found]     ` <mailman.2923.1540686004.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-10-30 17:22       ` Gene
2018-10-31  3:54         ` Van L
2018-10-31 10:42         ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3146.1540958071.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-11-02 19:34           ` Gene
2018-11-02 20:45             ` Gene

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