From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Time to consider/try Helm? Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2018 20:27:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87muqsiooh.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87a7mv84c0.fsf@sphax> <87d0rq3g8a.fsf@work.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87wopyidps.fsf@mbork.pl> <87ftwm9x6b.fsf@work.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1541100449 21611 195.159.176.226 (1 Nov 2018 19:27:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 19:27:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 27.0.50 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: YUE Daian Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 01 20:27:24 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gIIcm-0005Vg-Ke for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 20:27:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43723 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIIet-0001RU-7V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 15:29:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44216) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIIeS-0001QB-Hr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 15:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIIeN-0004uW-F3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 15:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:59532) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIIeN-0004qd-6f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2018 15:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3395DE6515; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 20:29:00 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VAl_5zloBrTr; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 20:28:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (static-dwadziewiec-jedenpiec7.echostar.pl [109.232.29.157]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1662E6514; Thu, 1 Nov 2018 20:28:56 +0100 (CET) In-reply-to: <87ftwm9x6b.fsf@work.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.110.48.8 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:118550 Archived-At: On 2018-10-31, at 12:23, YUE Daian wrote: >> Ivy can do these things, too. > > Sure. And dramatically after I tried Ivy since yesterday, I have already > uninstalled helm... Wow, that escalated quickly. > Thank you guys, for helping me find a new tool that suits my taste more. As someone who used both Helm and Ivy, could you summarize the key differences? I don't think I'm going to switch to Helm;-), but I'm just curious. >>> I think the biggest change helm brings is that it uses buffer instead of >>> mini-buffer to display its results. >> >> How is that beneficial? (I don't claim it isn't - I just don't know >> what are the pluses.) > > Here "change" is a neutral word. > > Some people like it, some people don't. > > Some people say that using an individual buffer may display more > information, such as file size, directory etc for buffer list. > > IMHO most information is not really needed (by me). > > So personally I could accept it, but I don't miss it after switching to > Ivy. I see. Thanks, -- Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl