From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bloat in the Emacs Windows package
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 21:55:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mukh220k.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zhomoz8s.fsf@telefonica.net> ("Óscar Fuentes"'s message of "Fri, 19 Apr 2019 16:17:55 +0200")
Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> Are all those dependencies necessary?
>>
>> The answer depends on what you intend to do with Emacs.
>
> Phillip goes to great lengths to be helpful, but IMO he is distributing
> too much stuff. There are plenty of dlls on the Emacs /bin directory
> with potential to break things. It would break my setup for sure,
> because it contains the tcl/tk dlls that will interfere with what I have
> installed.
I think that there are two plausible options here. The first is the one
that Chris from Emacs-W64 took. He put the DLLs for the direct
dependencies in (libjpg, libgif and so on) and some others. That's nice,
but it doesn't fulfil all parts of Emacs functionality -- for example,
M-x find-dired doesn't work, nor does flyspell because they lack find
and aspell.
The other option is to do what I have done; I have taken Emacs direct
dependencies and pulled in all the transistive dependencies according to
MSYS2, right or wrong. So M-x find-dired does work (as do images and as
does package.el). In the process you also get tcl/tk and, indeed,
python. Some things still do not work (so auctex can't compile because
of no latex).
I choose the later because I didn't want to hand-maintain a list of
dependencies for myself. This would be a significant task and one that
it would be hard to perform well, especially in the absence of a test
set for all of Emacs' functionality.
I am happy to consider a more minimal distribution of Emacs but I need
to know a way of producing this minimal dependency list. The code for
this is in admin/nt/dist-build. I welcome any amendments to this, but it
has to be automatic. In the mean time, you have the choice of a
dependency free version for when faced with issues like tcl/tk.
Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-22 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-17 5:01 Bloat in the Emacs Windows package Björn Lindqvist
2019-04-17 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-17 11:15 ` Van L
2019-04-17 11:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-17 12:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-17 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-17 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-18 22:02 ` Björn Lindqvist
2019-04-19 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-17 17:26 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-17 17:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-19 0:02 ` Björn Lindqvist
2019-04-19 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-19 13:23 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-22 21:04 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-22 21:41 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-17 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-17 16:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-17 17:28 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-17 15:07 ` Björn Lindqvist
2019-04-17 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-18 23:44 ` Björn Lindqvist
2019-04-19 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-19 14:17 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-19 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 20:55 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2019-04-17 17:39 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-17 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-17 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-18 16:05 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-18 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-18 21:19 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-18 23:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-19 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-22 20:40 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-23 2:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-23 10:01 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-23 11:28 ` Robert Pluim
2019-04-23 21:49 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-26 16:30 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-26 17:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-26 21:41 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-27 18:12 ` Björn Lindqvist
2019-04-27 18:17 ` Phillip Lord
2019-05-03 1:06 ` Björn Lindqvist
2019-05-03 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 18:38 ` Björn Lindqvist
2019-05-03 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-03 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-23 5:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-17 15:44 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-17 16:25 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-17 16:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-18 16:00 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-18 15:56 ` Phillip Lord
2019-04-18 16:39 ` Óscar Fuentes
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