From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38066: 26.1; X-Message-SMTP-Method header does not affect smtpmail-stream-type Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 19:23:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87muda89mp.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87ftj3j5hb.fsf@disp2634> <87o8xqcn8v.fsf@disp2634> <87r22m8bjk.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="218630"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 38066@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ryan Tate Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 05 19:26:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Wt-000ufW-AV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 19:26:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47280 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Ws-00055R-3Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:26:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56287) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Vn-0004JQ-RK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:25:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Vm-00041P-PC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:25:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58473) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Vm-00041I-Lq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:25:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Vm-0005VW-EN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:25:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38066 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38066-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38066.157297824521079 (code B ref 38066); Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38066) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2019 18:24:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Ur-0005Tv-H8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:24:05 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:54806) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Uo-0005Tb-V4 for 38066@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iS3Uk-0005RR-Qw; Tue, 05 Nov 2019 19:24:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Robert Pluim's message of "Tue, 05 Nov 2019 18:53:33 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170985 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > Lars> I'm not sure I understand the rationale hre. 465 is defined as= a TLS > Lars> port, so that's what Emacs should talk on that port. It's like= port > Lars> 443 -- it's also TLS. > > 465 is just a port. And eg > > (open-network-stream "google" nil "mail.google.com" 465) > > will attempt a STARTTLS connection (and incidentally hang my emacs > :-)). You can override that by passing in :type tls, but in some > situations you can=CA=BCt do that, hence the proposed patch. > > Unless you=CA=BCre suggesting that we unconditionally use tls for 465/443? > That=CA=BCs another option, but it=CA=BCs sure to break someone's setup. 465 is a TLS port in an SMTP context, and 443 is a TLS port in an HTTP context. Outside those contexts, they're not anything in particular, of course. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no