Mobile org

Mobile org

[Marcelo de Moraes Serpa]

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Hello list,

org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD the
way I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so, I'm looking
for a mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that I could keep in
sync with my laptop.

What do you think?

Any suggestions appreciated,

Marcelo.

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Re: Mobile org

[Matt Lundin]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello list,
>
> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD
> the way I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so,
> I'm looking for a mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that
> I could keep in sync with my laptop.

There have been many discussions of this topic in the past. I would
recommend searching the gmane archives for iPhone, Nokia N810, Android,
portable, etc.

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode

If I had money to burn[1] and needed a mobile device, I would wait for
the Nokia N900, which is both a smartphone and a hackable Linux pocket
computer. There are Emacs packages that run on its predecessor, the
N810.

Best,
Matt

Footnotes:

[1] This is a big if. ;)

Re: Mobile org

[Delwood Richardson]

I am using org-mode on a N800 (or N810). It works pretty well in reverse-video
mode with emacs 22. Here is the link to the Emacs for maemo site:

http://danielsz.freeshell.org/code/mine/emacs-for-maemo/index.shtml

And one can easily sync writing with unison on the N800. The N900 looks great,
but until the price comes down the N800 and N810 are a great deal. They are
small enough to replace a Moleskine notebook and work with a folding bluetooth
keyboard like the iGo to give a truely protable org experience. 

Delwood

Re: Mobile org

[Bernt Hansen]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:

> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD
> the way I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so,
> I'm looking for a mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that
> I could keep in sync with my laptop.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated,

I took the easy way out - I got myself a Eee PC 1000HE which has a
reported 9 hour battery runtime in Windows.  I get 7+ hours in Linux and
it's a full PC with an 85% keyboard.  It's great for my purposes and it
runs full emacs and org-mode.

-Bernt

Re: Mobile org

[Ian Barton]

> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD 
> the way I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so, I'm 
> looking for a mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that I 
> could keep in sync with my laptop.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Any suggestions appreciated,
> 
> Marcelo.

Hi Marcelo,

I am in the middle of writing a tutorial for worg on using org on mobile 
devices. The short answer to your question is that there isn't really a 
pocketable device that runs emacs at the moment. Nokia's Maemo platform 
can run emacs, but I would call it pocketable.

So there are a few alternatives:

Use a device that can run ssh and ssh into one of your computer to run 
emacs in a terminal. Nokia, Android and Windows Mobile all have devices 
with ssh clients.

Use org-publish to make your files available as html or pdf. This gives 
you a read only version of your org files.

Use one of the services like reqall that can accept input via voice, 
Instant Meaaging, etc and publish it as an rss feed. You can then use 
one of the scripts available to import this into your org files.

Ian.

Re: Mobile org

[Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga]

At Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:33:44 +0100,
Ian Barton wrote:
> 
> I am in the middle of writing a tutorial for worg on using org on
> mobile devices. The short answer to your question is that there isn't
> really a pocketable device that runs emacs at the moment. Nokia's
> Maemo platform can run emacs, but I would call it pocketable.

I assumed you meant to say "not pocketable" and, if so, I guess it
depends on what kind of pockets!  My N810 fits in the pocket of any of
my jackets or coats and does in fact fit in my trouser pockets but the
latter is not necessarily ideal...

Re: Mobile org

[Miguel Fernando Cabrera]

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Few days ago the Nokia N900 (the successor of the N810) was released [1].
Although it is a little bit pricey, I am definitely looking forward to buy
one see Emacs + Org-Mode running on one of those things. Check it out [2].

This is the as "PocketEmacs" you can get :-). I wonder what other wonderful
ways of using Org can be developed if "Mobility" is added to the equation
:-).



[1]
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1337594

[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE


On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:

> At Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:33:44 +0100,
> Ian Barton wrote:
> >
> > I am in the middle of writing a tutorial for worg on using org on
> > mobile devices. The short answer to your question is that there isn't
> > really a pocketable device that runs emacs at the moment. Nokia's
> > Maemo platform can run emacs, but I would call it pocketable.
>
> I assumed you meant to say "not pocketable" and, if so, I guess it
> depends on what kind of pockets!  My N810 fits in the pocket of any of
> my jackets or coats and does in fact fit in my trouser pockets but the
> latter is not necessarily ideal...
>
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Re: Mobile org

[BKnoth]

>> Some screenshots:
>>
>>      http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1055/gnus.png
>>      http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4656/menux.png
>>      http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1610/emacsgeneral.png
>
> Ooh, very nice!  Would *love* to hear how you got emacs 23 on there,
> and more details on the tuning and tweaks you did ...
>
Agreed - how did you do that? Did you post instructions somewhere, or 
find some?

- Bruce

Re: Mobile org

[news]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello list,
>
> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD the way
> I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so, I'm looking for a
> mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that I could keep in sync with
> my laptop.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated,
>
> Marcelo.

Hi Marcelo,
           check the CategoryPorts page on the emacswiki:
           http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryPorts

           Personally I use emacs on my android phone, which includes a
           Debian installation, see here:

           http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid 

           I use the android scripting environment to access android
           programs from emacs. This allows me to make phone calls/send
           text messages with BBDB in emacs, while I can still use the
           useful gui stuff in android such as maps, web-browsing,
           bar-code scanner etc. 

           I believe android is the way to go since it is open source
           and hackable, while also having a large repertoire of cool
           and useful apps.

           The only drawback is that the initial setup is quite
           complicated and time-consuming. You need to be fairly
           technically minded.

-- 
aleblanc

mobile org

[clsnyder]

Hi

I have a web-dav set up via dreamhost on a remote server
(http://myfile.clsnyder.com/orgmode/index.org)

I have mobile org on my iphone.

When I ftp transferred files to the server, they show up on the iphone app, and
sync and work fine. 

I am unable to push or pull anything from my windows/mac home computers from the
server via emacs; 
Under Org Mobile group, I put http://myfile.clsnyder.com/orgmode/ as the org
mobile directory (where would I input the username and password?)

When I try to push files and views or get captured, I get a
"org-mobile-check-setup: Please set `org-directory' to the directory where your
org files live" error

? any ideas 

GNU Emacs 23.1.50.
orgmode 6.33a
windows 7


Thanks

cls

Re: mobile org

[Reinout van Rees]

On 04/20/2010 04:12 AM, clsnyder wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a web-dav set up via dreamhost on a remote server
> (http://myfile.clsnyder.com/orgmode/index.org)
>
> I have mobile org on my iphone.
>
> When I ftp transferred files to the server, they show up on the iphone app, and
> sync and work fine.
>
> I am unable to push or pull anything from my windows/mac home computers from the
> server via emacs;
> Under Org Mobile group, I put http://myfile.clsnyder.com/orgmode/ as the org
> mobile directory (where would I input the username and password?)
>
> When I try to push files and views or get captured, I get a
> "org-mobile-check-setup: Please set `org-directory' to the directory where your
> org files live" error
>
> ? any ideas

In your emacs config, you need to set that org-directory variable so 
that org mode knows where to get/send the files.

See http://orgmode.org/manual/Setting-up-the-staging-area.html

For instance:

(setq org-mobile-directory "/scp:yoursever.org:orgmode/")

You've set the "org mobile directory": please check whether that ended 
up as 'org-mobile-directory' in your emacs config. Perhaps you only set 
it once and didn't save the settings?

Another point: sure that the "http://" of yours is writable?  I'd rather 
expect ftp or https or scp instead of plain http.


Reinout

Re: mobile org

[charles snyder]

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My earlier post was in regard to problems with sync from mobile org on a
iphone to a webdav folder on
a remote server (in this case a dreamhost account).

I got it to work, and though perhaps this overly simplistic description of
the steps would be helpful to
someone else.

The instructions are for a mac, but windows XP will mount webdav folders as
well.
Unfortunately, windows 7 "hates" webdav, and the easiest way is to install
(free) external software to mount a webdav
(at least that's my understanding):


  1. Go to the finder
  2. Click on Go and choose 'connect to server'
  3. The server is http://myfile.clsnyder.com/orgmode
  4. Click Connect
  5. The user name is username
  6. The password is password
  7. Save as a favorite - it will always need to be mounted in order to
access it
  8. An icon will show up on the desktop called 'orgmode': this has the
remote files
  9. You must identify the org-mobile-directory as "/Volumes/orgmode/" -
this can be done either in
.emacs or just click org ->  Mobile org -> Setup. If the latter, save for
all future sessions.
10. The org-mobile-files are "/Users/clsnyder/Dropbox/emacs_org/personal.org
",
"/Users/clsnyder/Dropbox/emacs_org/reference.org",
"/Users/clsnyder/Dropbox/emacs_org/notes.org",
"/Users/clsnyder/Dropbox/emacs_org/journal.org",
"/Users/clsnyder/Dropbox/emacs_org/calendar.org"

Again, this can be done in .emacs or as described above
  11. This should work

Hope this helps someone.


Charles Snyder

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Mobile org

[Paul Schlesinger]

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For about two weeks since getting a new ipad I have not been able to
re-install mobile org. After setting up dropbox I can log in from MobileOrg
but the target directories are not created and they are not use if I create
them manually. This seems to me to be resulting from a change in dropbox.
Perhaps these are anticipated by the promise of a version 1.71 that appears
to be expected but not available. I would appreciate direction to
installation instructions that are current or other explanation.


Thank you

Paul Schlesinger

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Washington University School of Medicine

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Re: Mobile org

[Sean Escriva]

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Hey Paul,

MobileOrg for iOS maintainer here. The issue you're facing is probably due
to the deprecated v1 Dropbox API. The next MobileOrg release, v1.7, is soon
to be released and will use new Dropbox APIv2. I can confirm from a few
reports from TestFlight test users that it works well.

Thanks for your interest in MobileOrg, it's great to hear that there are
people besides just me that use it :)

Sean

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 7:59 AM Paul Schlesinger <phschlesinger@gmail.com>
wrote:

> For about two weeks since getting a new ipad I have not been able to
> re-install mobile org. After setting up dropbox I can log in from MobileOrg
> but the target directories are not created and they are not use if I create
> them manually. This seems to me to be resulting from a change in dropbox.
> Perhaps these are anticipated by the promise of a version 1.71 that appears
> to be expected but not available. I would appreciate direction to
> installation instructions that are current or other explanation.
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Paul Schlesinger
>
> --
> Paul H. Schlesinger MD, PhD
> Washington University School of Medicine
>

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Re: Mobile org

[Kenneth Jacker]

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> there are people besides just me that use it :)


​Yes ... like me!

*OrgMode* is one of my most used ​"systems".

Getting *MobileOrg* updated would be great!

-Kenneth

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Re: Mobile org

[Paul Schlesinger]

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There appear to be more than just one of us.

paul

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Kenneth Jacker <jackerkh@appstate.edu>
wrote:

>
> there are people besides just me that use it :)
>
>
> ​Yes ... like me!
>
> *OrgMode* is one of my most used ​"systems".
>
> Getting *MobileOrg* updated would be great!
>
> -Kenneth
>
>
>


-- 
Paul H. Schlesinger MD, PhD
Washington University School of Medicine

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Re: Mobile org

[Sean Escriva]

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Thanks for letting me know. Note that the latest release is now available:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mobileorg/id634225528?mt=8

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:59 PM Paul Schlesinger <phschlesinger@gmail.com>
wrote:

> There appear to be more than just one of us.
>
> paul
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Kenneth Jacker <jackerkh@appstate.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
> there are people besides just me that use it :)
>
>
> ​Yes ... like me!
>
> *OrgMode* is one of my most used ​"systems".
>
> Getting *MobileOrg* updated would be great!
>
> -Kenneth
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Paul H. Schlesinger MD, PhD
> Washington University School of Medicine
>

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mobile org

[M.R.P.]

Hello I have an android phone. I am running emacs on a macbook.How can I 
sync my android phone with mobile org without using a cloud. For example 
using a memory stick?

Re: mobile org

[ken]

On 09/09/2018 06:19 PM, M.R.P. wrote:
> Hello I have an android phone. I am running emacs on a macbook.How can
> I sync my android phone with mobile org without using a cloud. For
> example using a memory stick?

What's "mobile org"?

Re: mobile org

[YUE Daian]

On 2018-09-09 21:44, ken <gebser@mousecar.com> wrote:
> On 09/09/2018 06:19 PM, M.R.P. wrote:
>> Hello I have an android phone. I am running emacs on a macbook.How can
>> I sync my android phone with mobile org without using a cloud. For
>> example using a memory stick?
>
> What's "mobile org"?

I was confused by the same question, and then I opted another way.

I use Orgzly instead of MobileOrg as Android Org editor and Syncthing as
a synchronizer between PC and Android phone.

Syncthing is P2P sync tool that does not require centralized cloud
service, as long as the endpoints are accessible from each other.

You just link the Org directory on your phone and PC, Syncthing will
sync the two for you...

Is that acceptable for you?

Danny

Re: mobile org

[Bob Newell]

I tried many methods and nothing works better than installing Termux
on the Android device and setting up Emacs the same as you have on
your PC. It takes a bit of time but then you have a nearly identical
working environment. You can easily sync with rsync to USB if you get
one of those OTG cables. A cloud service like strongspace.com (free
1GB accounts) is better but if you don't want to use the cloud there
are other ways, like the P2P connection mentioned by Danny.

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 4:30 PM, YUE Daian <sheepduke@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2018-09-09 21:44, ken <gebser@mousecar.com> wrote:
>> On 09/09/2018 06:19 PM, M.R.P. wrote:
>>> Hello I have an android phone. I am running emacs on a macbook.How can
>>> I sync my android phone with mobile org without using a cloud. For
>>> example using a memory stick?
>>
>> What's "mobile org"?
>
> I was confused by the same question, and then I opted another way.
>
> I use Orgzly instead of MobileOrg as Android Org editor and Syncthing as
> a synchronizer between PC and Android phone.
>
> Syncthing is P2P sync tool that does not require centralized cloud
> service, as long as the endpoints are accessible from each other.
>
> You just link the Org directory on your phone and PC, Syncthing will
> sync the two for you...
>
> Is that acceptable for you?
>
> Danny
>



-- 
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i

Via Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB.

Re: mobile org

[Martin]

Hello,


M.R.P. <wintermute24x7@icloud.com> writes:

> Hello I have an android phone. I am running emacs on a macbook.How can
> I sync my android phone with mobile org without using a cloud. For
> example using a memory stick?

This depdends very much, what you exactly want to sync.  Calendar?
Todos? Other things?

For calendar and tasks I use org-caldav (my own grauschnabel fork),
together with an nextcloud server and I sync it with DAVdroid, using the
opentasks app for the tasks, for calendar you can use any native
calendar

if you want to sync more than that, the other answers are useful.

- Martin

mobile org

[Jude DaShiell]

Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
way if possible.  Last time mobile org got updated was 2013 according to
google play store unless later updates happened by git or github.  Mobile
org donate also had a 2013 last update in the google play store too and I
wouldn't have minded paying for that if it would work with Android Pi and
would also work with android Q.



--

Re: mobile org

[Alex Roper]

I use termux + emacs personally, and then sync with git from the command
line. It's obviously not especially phone-optimized UX, typing on a
command line...but depending on your needs and alternatives it may be
acceptable.

Alex

On 11/17/19 4:01 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
> orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
> plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
> way if possible.  Last time mobile org got updated was 2013 according to
> google play store unless later updates happened by git or github.  Mobile
> org donate also had a 2013 last update in the google play store too and I
> wouldn't have minded paying for that if it would work with Android Pi and
> would also work with android Q.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 

Re: mobile org

[Jude DaShiell]

I can't do that unless termux emacs is a different application from
termux since I'm using talkback on android and termux and talkback work
strangely together.

On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Alex Roper wrote:

> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:13:48
> From: Alex Roper <alex@aroper.net>
> To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: mobile org
>
> I use termux + emacs personally, and then sync with git from the command
> line. It's obviously not especially phone-optimized UX, typing on a
> command line...but depending on your needs and alternatives it may be
> acceptable.
>
> Alex
>
> On 11/17/19 4:01 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
> > orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
> > plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
> > way if possible.  Last time mobile org got updated was 2013 according to
> > google play store unless later updates happened by git or github.  Mobile
> > org donate also had a 2013 last update in the google play store too and I
> > wouldn't have minded paying for that if it would work with Android Pi and
> > would also work with android Q.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
>
>

-- 

Re: mobile org

[Alex Roper]

I meant the standard one in termux, so this probably won't work for you
then.

One other thought, if your only concern with orgzly is Dropbox, you
might consider an open source alternative such as Syncthing. I used to
use that on my computers and phone to sync my org before moving to
termux. By default it does use some sort of cloud locator service for
NAT hole punching etc, but I believe you can turn that off.

In general, though I do wish there were more options in this space.

Alex

On 11/17/19 6:03 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I can't do that unless termux emacs is a different application from
> termux since I'm using talkback on android and termux and talkback work
> strangely together.
> 
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Alex Roper wrote:
> 
>> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:13:48
>> From: Alex Roper <alex@aroper.net>
>> To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: mobile org
>>
>> I use termux + emacs personally, and then sync with git from the command
>> line. It's obviously not especially phone-optimized UX, typing on a
>> command line...but depending on your needs and alternatives it may be
>> acceptable.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 11/17/19 4:01 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>> Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
>>> orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
>>> plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
>>> way if possible.  Last time mobile org got updated was 2013 according to
>>> google play store unless later updates happened by git or github.  Mobile
>>> org donate also had a 2013 last update in the google play store too and I
>>> wouldn't have minded paying for that if it would work with Android Pi and
>>> would also work with android Q.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 

Re: mobile org

[Jude DaShiell]

Thanks, I'll check that out.

On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Alex Roper wrote:

> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:14:34
> From: Alex Roper <alex@aroper.net>
> To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: mobile org
>
> I meant the standard one in termux, so this probably won't work for you
> then.
>
> One other thought, if your only concern with orgzly is Dropbox, you
> might consider an open source alternative such as Syncthing. I used to
> use that on my computers and phone to sync my org before moving to
> termux. By default it does use some sort of cloud locator service for
> NAT hole punching etc, but I believe you can turn that off.
>
> In general, though I do wish there were more options in this space.
>
> Alex
>
> On 11/17/19 6:03 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > I can't do that unless termux emacs is a different application from
> > termux since I'm using talkback on android and termux and talkback work
> > strangely together.
> >
> > On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Alex Roper wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:13:48
> >> From: Alex Roper <alex@aroper.net>
> >> To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> >> Subject: Re: mobile org
> >>
> >> I use termux + emacs personally, and then sync with git from the command
> >> line. It's obviously not especially phone-optimized UX, typing on a
> >> command line...but depending on your needs and alternatives it may be
> >> acceptable.
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >> On 11/17/19 4:01 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >>> Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
> >>> orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
> >>> plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
> >>> way if possible.  Last time mobile org got updated was 2013 according to
> >>> google play store unless later updates happened by git or github.  Mobile
> >>> org donate also had a 2013 last update in the google play store too and I
> >>> wouldn't have minded paying for that if it would work with Android Pi and
> >>> would also work with android Q.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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Re: mobile org

[Charles Philip Chan]

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Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:

Hello Jude,

> Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
> orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
> plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
> way if possible.

I personally use Orgzly. I use a directory on my device as the
repository and sync it with Foldersync. However, I have been following
Orgzly's development, Webdav and git sync have just been implemented.


Charles

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Re: mobile org

[Anssi Saari]

Charles Philip Chan <cpchan@bell.net> writes:

> I personally use Orgzly. I use a directory on my device as the
> repository and sync it with Foldersync.

Just curious but what do you sync to with Foldersync?

> However, I have been following Orgzly's development, Webdav and git
> sync have just been implemented.

I hadn't noticed git sync?

Re: mobile org

[Greg Troxel]

Alex Roper <alex@aroper.net> writes:

> One other thought, if your only concern with orgzly is Dropbox, you
> might consider an open source alternative such as Syncthing. I used to
> use that on my computers and phone to sync my org before moving to
> termux. By default it does use some sort of cloud locator service for
> NAT hole punching etc, but I believe you can turn that off.

I've been using orgzly, and I didn't even realize it had dropbox support
:-) Looking at f-droid, I don't see an antifeature, so I'm not sure
what's up there.

I keep my org files in git.  I use orgzly as readonly because sync/merge
is basically messy, especially since orgzly has a notion of sync from
orgzly internal to android filesystem, and then one has to sync that.
(It might work fine, but I have never tried.)

I have a clone of my org repo on a regular computer, and run syncthing
there and on the phone.  The org repo that is special for syncthing gets
updated every morning.  So whenever the phone has power and wifi
(because I set it that way), it gets a copy of the repo that is
reasonably fresh.

orgzly itself has been solid  and it is kept updated on f-droid.

It is true that syncthing has relay and discovery servers, but they can
indeed be turned off.   My understanding is that the servers run open
source code and do not have plaintext access, but I can of course see
why you don't want that, both to avoid traffic analysis and on
principle.

Re: mobile org

[flow]

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Hi
I use Orgzly with Nextcloud through webdav and it works pretty good.
Best!
El dom, 17-11-2019 a las 18:14 -0800, Alex Roper escribió:
> I meant the standard one in termux, so this probably won't work for
> youthen.
> One other thought, if your only concern with orgzly is Dropbox,
> youmight consider an open source alternative such as Syncthing. I
> used touse that on my computers and phone to sync my org before
> moving totermux. By default it does use some sort of cloud locator
> service forNAT hole punching etc, but I believe you can turn that
> off.
> In general, though I do wish there were more options in this space.
> Alex
> On 11/17/19 6:03 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > I can't do that unless termux emacs is a different application
> > fromtermux since I'm using talkback on android and termux and
> > talkback workstrangely together.
> > On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, Alex Roper wrote:
> > > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:13:48From: Alex Roper <alex@aroper.net>
> > > To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> > > Subject: Re: mobile org
> > > I use termux + emacs personally, and then sync with git from the
> > > commandline. It's obviously not especially phone-optimized UX,
> > > typing on acommand line...but depending on your needs and
> > > alternatives it may beacceptable.
> > > Alex
> > > On 11/17/19 4:01 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > > Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good
> > > > alternatives beyondorgsly available?  I don't like to have to
> > > > use dropbox and would like toplug a usb cord into my computer
> > > > and synchtronize my orgmode files thatway if possible.  Last
> > > > time mobile org got updated was 2013 according togoogle play
> > > > store unless later updates happened by git or
> > > > github.  Mobileorg donate also had a 2013 last update in the
> > > > google play store too and Iwouldn't have minded paying for that
> > > > if it would work with Android Pi andwould also work with
> > > > android Q.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > 

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Re: mobile org

[Richard Lawrence]

Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:

> Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
> orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
> plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
> way if possible.

I saw this recently, and haven't seen it mentioned on the list:

https://organice.200ok.ch/

Here's an intro video: https://invidio.us/watch?v=aQKc0hcFXCk

It's a browser-based interface rather than an app, so it should work
just about anywhere. It doesn't solve the syncing problem itself;
instead it allows you to sign in with Dropbox, Google Drive, or WebDAV.
Still not great if you're trying to avoid the proprietary services and
sync with a cable, but it looks like an interesting alternative to
Orgzly.

-- 
Best,
Richard

Re: mobile org

[Diego Zamboni]

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Hm... organice is suspiciously similar to https://org-web.org/, which I had
seen before. Even the Sample files are almost identical.

Looking at the github history, organice seems to be a fork of org-web, but
with more recent development.

--Diego


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:10 PM Richard Lawrence <
richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:
>
> > Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
> > orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
> > plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
> > way if possible.
>
> I saw this recently, and haven't seen it mentioned on the list:
>
> https://organice.200ok.ch/
>
> Here's an intro video: https://invidio.us/watch?v=aQKc0hcFXCk
>
> It's a browser-based interface rather than an app, so it should work
> just about anywhere. It doesn't solve the syncing problem itself;
> instead it allows you to sign in with Dropbox, Google Drive, or WebDAV.
> Still not great if you're trying to avoid the proprietary services and
> sync with a cable, but it looks like an interesting alternative to
> Orgzly.
>
> --
> Best,
> Richard
>
>

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Re: mobile org

[Neil Jerram]

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If org-web and organice are browser-based, why do they need syncing?  Could
the server be your regular non-mobile Org machine?

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 08:57, Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org> wrote:

> Hm... organice is suspiciously similar to https://org-web.org/, which I
> had seen before. Even the Sample files are almost identical.
>
> Looking at the github history, organice seems to be a fork of org-web, but
> with more recent development.
>
> --Diego
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:10 PM Richard Lawrence <
> richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:
>>
>> > Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives
>> beyond
>> > orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
>> > plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
>> > way if possible.
>>
>> I saw this recently, and haven't seen it mentioned on the list:
>>
>> https://organice.200ok.ch/
>>
>> Here's an intro video: https://invidio.us/watch?v=aQKc0hcFXCk
>>
>> It's a browser-based interface rather than an app, so it should work
>> just about anywhere. It doesn't solve the syncing problem itself;
>> instead it allows you to sign in with Dropbox, Google Drive, or WebDAV.
>> Still not great if you're trying to avoid the proprietary services and
>> sync with a cable, but it looks like an interesting alternative to
>> Orgzly.
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Richard
>>
>>

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Re: mobile org

[Charles Philip Chan]

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Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> writes:

Hi Anssi,

> Just curious but what do you sync to with Foldersync?

To a directory on my computer via sftp

>> However, I have been following Orgzly's development, Webdav and git
>> sync have just been implemented.
>
> I hadn't noticed git sync?

You won't see it yet:

https://github.com/orgzly/orgzly-android/issues/24#issuecomment-554925694

https://github.com/orgzly/orgzly-android/pull/173

Charles


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Re: mobile org

[Richard Lawrence]

Neil Jerram <neiljerram@gmail.com> writes:

> If org-web and organice are browser-based, why do they need syncing?  Could
> the server be your regular non-mobile Org machine?

Presumably yes, if you're willing to keep it online and run a WebDAV
server on it.

> On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 08:57, Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org> wrote:

>> Looking at the github history, organice seems to be a fork of org-web, but
>> with more recent development.

Yes, I think I saw somewhere that it's a "friendly" fork.

-- 
Best,
Richard

Re: mobile org

[Jude DaShiell]

On Mon, 18 Nov 2019, Richard Lawrence wrote:

> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:08:52
> From: Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu>
> To: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: mobile org
>
> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:
>
> > Will mobile org work in Android PI?  If not, any good alternatives beyond
> > orgsly available?  I don't like to have to use dropbox and would like to
> > plug a usb cord into my computer and synchtronize my orgmode files that
> > way if possible.
>
> I saw this recently, and haven't seen it mentioned on the list:
>
> https://organice.200ok.ch/
>
> Here's an intro video: https://invidio.us/watch?v=aQKc0hcFXCk
>
> It's a browser-based interface rather than an app, so it should work
> just about anywhere. It doesn't solve the syncing problem itself;
> instead it allows you to sign in with Dropbox, Google Drive, or WebDAV.
> Still not great if you're trying to avoid the proprietary services and
> sync with a cable, but it looks like an interesting alternative to
> Orgzly.
>
I got orgsly and dropbox working on my phone.  I tried rclone dbxcli and
dropbox-cli and couldn't get any of them to link dropbox up to my
computer.  Probably packages need updates.

>

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