From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28182: bug#39847: Document how users can make text-zoom keys same as browser Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2020 21:51:36 +0100 Message-ID: <87mu8x40x3.fsf@stefankangas.se> References: <877e05hu32.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <835zfoeoar.fsf@gnu.org> <87pndt43ie.fsf@stefankangas.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="107381"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: 39847@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, 28182@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 03 21:52:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j9EWS-000Rmb-95 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Gh9R8LgeU2xOnY2CPYet2Kubs8eKhGPl9U+utyRJvOI=; b=bkEiNCS3OqDTjguS+NCikJLk5K 5Jo7uupmGFwCbWqTcGs6WbNL8sTxgsxjDi6ROIQMA3HFOiEG1ltZ/KIg+0S1O6IkZQ8nXH2aP55ht tved6X04B1vn+zP6TTq6tCjZFWSO+toFP3ae6tAF6Bsdun1esmLc/Ba3V9OtqGuOC825OtfI4GHgn wYggQsOfe9MgqCLZwUPLHK3NO0ZMicymD2KCQy9S8n8busmL9GAo7ZeqNYH7GTSFJu/cYMFKQKdv1 QFrtj+0gaw40EgKz1rkT9d4Y1u8hKBxBImxniC6V3uKfXVPrgClfN0SYcZK0FjLU9AdT3FR5ktAev nn0EoSkQ==; Original-Received: from h-4-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:44778 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1j9EVz-000Umk-Qx; Tue, 03 Mar 2020 15:51:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 3 Mar 2020 12:24:28 -0800 (PST)") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176812 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > I don't see how it would be backward > compatible. How so? I mean that it would not change the current binding for C--. > 1. It doesn't help with the argument currently > being given, which is that users are used to > `C-+/-'. `s-+/-' doesn't help at all, given > such a habit, does it? I personally agree with Richard that C-- and C-+ is a better default and I also think it's okay if negative prefix argument is only on M--. However, Eli has stated in Bug#28182 that he doesn't want a backward incompatible change. AFAICT, s-- and s-+ has some precedence. It's used in Sublime Text. Atom and VSCode use C-- and C-+. This is from searching the web. > 2. We already have `C-x +/-'. Why would we need > or want two such sets of keys, by default? Familiarity and ease of use. BTW, we have more than two such keys: C-x C-+ text-scale-adjust C-x C-- text-scale-adjust C-x C-0 text-scale-adjust C-x C-= text-scale-adjust Best regards, Stefan Kangas